Sbaimo
12/15 LR black/white 21” no FSD delivered 6/30
It is the Tesla way and it sucks. But you will forget about it once you ha e your car
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For those near the GLen Allen VA SC and havent had a chance to check out a refresh up close, they have several on the premisis and one unlocked and open in the showroom. Interior build quality much improved over prior S for sure. With windows up, dead quiet. The rest has already been covered in numerous reviews. But looked and felt good like a much higher level of vehicle over my 2017 S
All of them had 21" arachnids of course. Two red outside still in partial plastic, a grey with black interior one inside. No badge on trunk.
All of them had 21" arachnids of course. Two red outside still in partial plastic, a grey with black interior one inside. No badge on trunk.
VM0412
Member
I heard this so many times during my wait. Took delivery 6/28 for my MS LR. All I can say is that its true. I've completely forgotten about my 5 month wait.
I would've waited til December for this car if I had to. But I might be biased, because no other car interested me. Not a Tesla fanboy either, this is my first.
Hmm, just found interesting thing. Those recent changes over accounts when people can see “agreement” tab, also brought changes to final price for me.
long story short, that RTA amount has been $1320 before today’s changes.
I live out of the zone where this fee applies. When I spoke with SAs they told me this amount will be voided since my registration’s address is out of that zone and they will adjust everything when I'll get a VIN and MVPA.
Probably this change is related to my recent change of pick-up location tho, but I'm not sure.
long story short, that RTA amount has been $1320 before today’s changes.
I live out of the zone where this fee applies. When I spoke with SAs they told me this amount will be voided since my registration’s address is out of that zone and they will adjust everything when I'll get a VIN and MVPA.
Probably this change is related to my recent change of pick-up location tho, but I'm not sure.
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CWhite
2020 Model S LR+
You have to account for charging efficiency. It does take 28 kWh coming into your house to charge the car with enough to go 100 miles. Assume, for simple math, 90% charging efficiency. 28 x .9 = .252 so 252 kWh per 100 miles gives you a 100 kWh battery range of 397 miles. Close enough for me. Math is only simple if you know how the base numbers are arrived at. Range is not the same as efficiency, as far as the EPA sticker go, nothing new, always been like that. At least for EV’s
I forget, is the 100 kWh pack confirmed anywhere or is that assumption. In both cases, the math implies a pack around ~114 kWh
According to CAN data the pack is right around 99.7kWh when built. Mine charges to a max of about 98.8, and the numbers for range calculation are based on 97.5 iirc.
bananaheim
Member
Your window is two days shorter than mine, which also shows the randomness of the date assignments. i can't believe that the production window for an LR would be longer than a Plaid. I know, its just the monkey at work....
Pezpunk
Active Member
nah, i think your reaction is hugely overblown. you sound like a toddler stamping his foot at not getting exactly what he wanted exactly when he wanted. production is hard. obviously unforeseen stuff came up. it honestly doesn't bother me in the least. the car is obviously going to be amazing (if it's anything like my current P100D). who cares if i get it a month or two later than promised. in the grand scheme of things, it's a total non issue and not worth my energy -- especially when it's not going to change anything. they're not holding your car just to screw with you.
bananaheim
Member
@AlanSubie4Life already broke down the battery pack and has a thread going but the pack size is 102kwh for the plaid and slightly less for the LR. That's actually less capacity than the 2020 LR+ which had 104kwh.
Edit: "The current charging constant used for all calculations on the display is 246Whr/mi"
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Edit: "The current charging constant used for all calculations on the display is 246Whr/mi"
Model S Plaid Battery Details, sourced from EPA Docs, Vehicle Observations, & Supercharging/Charging data
I thought I should break this topic out separately from the Model S (Plaid) Delivery Update thread, since there is a lot of posting there, and things just get buried immediately. Summary of current status as I understand it: 1) Preliminary Monroney (not official) suggests about 103kWh unlocked...
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MarcG
Active Member
I think you missed Bill’s (@lolachampcar) story here, who is also a fellow Plaid+ convert and long-time Tesla / multiple-Tesla customer. Like many others, including myself, he was offered to convert his order to Plaid for a June delivery BEFORE Elon tweeted that “Plaid+ is cancelled”.
He actually did convert his order before the price hike, unlike me (I would certainly have, if I was told Plaid+ would be canceled just a few days later - but that’s a whole different story I won’t get into here).
Anyway, Bill was promised delivery in June despite having ordered a Plaid with 19” wheels, which we now know was never going to be possible, since no Model S with 19s was produced at all till now, but we did not know back in June.
Did Tesla actually know this (no 19s produced in June) and made a promise they could never keep? Someone at Tesla certainly did.
From my understanding, they also switched his order to 21” wheels without his permission, increasing his order by $4,500+tax extra - whereas @uthatcher was offered a free upgrade to 21s to make Q2 quota, but he’s in SoCal whereas @lolachampcar is in Florida, so Tesla probably thought it was more likely to make their delivery in Q2 by shipping to SoCal rather than FL.
Now Tesla is telling @lolachampcar that he can either take his Plaid’s delivery (once they lift the hold) with 21s at the additional $4,500+tax cost, or leave it and cancel his order. Not a great experience, IMHO.
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Hope that’s not mine…have VIN and Edd range was as early as Monday….but was told not likely to be in/deliverable. Selfishly, would be a little miffed if other are enjoying and I am not.
AlanSubie4Life
Efficiency Obsessed Member
The constant is correct but the final documents suggest about 99.3kWh. (The charging efficiency is surprisingly low compared to various other Tesla vehicles which is why the 103kWh estimate was high.)@AlanSubie4Life already broke down the battery pack and has a thread going but the pack size is 102kwh for the plaid and slightly less for the LR. That's actually less capacity than the 2020 LR+ which had 104kwh.
Edit: "The current charging constant used for all calculations on the display is 246Whr/mi"
Model S Plaid Battery Details, sourced from EPA Docs, Vehicle Observations, & Supercharging/Charging data
I thought I should break this topic out separately from the Model S (Plaid) Delivery Update thread, since there is a lot of posting there, and things just get buried immediately. Summary of current status as I understand it: 1) Preliminary Monroney (not official) suggests about 103kWh unlocked...
Model S Plaid Battery Details, sourced from EPA Docs, Vehicle Observations, & Supercharging/Charging data
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