Wiki Model S Delivery Update

[uthatcher]

That was yesterday; today’s a new day! Until tomorrow…

Well, ok, if you insist. @2021plaid I really love Tesla, man. How about you? Elon is so rad. Tesla’s are so rad. Life is so rad.

 

[Kondo]

My Estimated Delivery: Just got bumped to October 28 - November 10 from yesterday - Nov. 2 nd .. after the stock surge, I can't even be upset. Still in shock after a 100 point jump.

 

[EndlessPlaid]

Well, ok, if you insist. @2021plaid I really love Tesla, man. How about you? Elon is so rad. Tesla’s are so rad. Life is so rad.

@uthatcher and myself:

@jebinc lol:
"Get a room!"

 

[josahua]

Is DCU good company to finance with?
Do they send you the check directly and let you fill in the amount up to a maximum (penfed does this)?
How long was the process?

Any advice/feedback is appreciated.

 

[omarsultan]

Those are fair points and I agree for most tech that’s the case. Whenever there is competition the consumer wins as the price gets driven down to acquire customers.

However something as difficult to master as FSD doesn’t automatically fall into the same category as previous tech. I don’t think we’ll see multiple companies achieve it at the same time so there will not be any price competition for several years. The first company to mass produce a true self driving car will be able to name their price initially.

To your point once there are 2+ companies offering FSD the price will drop significantly. There are a lot of examples of novel tech products being rediculously expensive at first, then dropping significantly once other companies catch up.

Also fair points. Maybe a couple more observations.

There is a foot race and I agree who crosses the finish line first will see a windfall, and it might be that Tesla has an insurmountable lead so it is them plus a number of #2s which are "good enough". As regulations and minimum requirements firm up, I expect some normalization of capabilities, and increase the price pressure on whomever the market leader is on how much of a premium they can charge (i.e. what the difference is in perceived value and if its meaningful).

I think the other thing is there is not just one autonomy finish line. I see delivery vehicles, robot-taxis and autonomous personal vehicles as potentially 3 different markets that could have different winners.

 

[Ryanflynn]

First super charge in the mslr 19” wheels with 10% charged 207 miles in 15 minutes and to 80% in 27 minutes.

This is game changing.

 

[auger]

Is it normal for a VIN disappear after getting one?

Not normal but not unheard of.

 

[Ryanflynn]

Just posted more detailed results of the long range supercharging results.

2021 model s long range real world super charging is FAST

Hey friends, I took my new 2021 refreshed Model S long range with the 19” wheels and the speed was unbelievable. Especially compared to my old 2018 75d. 10% Soc 62F started charging at a 160kw instantly Climbed to 250kw by 14% Stayed at 250kw until 35% Stay over 150kw until 50% Stay...

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[frvhecke]

I haven't had EDD at all. When ordered Jan 27th it said Sep 2021, but after that empty. RN1144

I have RN1146 (ordered in March). It's a lease car, so comms went through the leasing company. But on the last shift from November 2021 to March 2022 I got a phone call from Tesla Amsterdam to inform me. They are completely clueless on actual timelines though, felt like they were more trying to prevent me from cancelling my order. (esp. as EV tax in NL is going up in 2022, so I'm getting screwed by ~150EUR/month in additional tax)

But at the moment being realistic and expecting we won't see anything before summer..

 

[MFrunkerOG]

You can read some of florida man's best hits here:

Snippiness 2.0

He has spent spent a great deal of his time here lashing out at ANYONE that questions any of his views/choices/opinions. He has belittled and straight out insulted many people here. He mocks their cars, their situations, even their names. He has made it very clear on several occasions he has no use for this forum.

I can almost guarantee he will come back here, but only when he has great photos to post. He won't use that opportunity to to make it a positive experience for everyone else. He will brag, talk about how he made the best choices, and then take the time to insult a few people on the way out, me included.

I was hoping his ban was permanent, after he intentionally circumvented the language filters, and then lashed out at the community as a whole. If he does use the other threads here, it won't be long before he is banned again. He has thin skin and a massive ego. Something most of us deal with in our 20's. He's in his 50's. That's just sad.

I know a few 50 year olds that haven’t advanced past 20!

I personally like to stay 13 ! Not quite 50 though

 

[MFrunkerOG]

So I think I may have underpriced my old S that sold this past week (not to worry, my new S is coming in 2 weeks… actual 2 weeks). It sold in 18 hours at my asking price!

I’m asking this to make myself feel better - What would you pay for a 2015 dual motor S with 80k miles and all the upgrades possible and in spectacular condition?

 

[Tigers]

So I think I may have underpriced my old S that sold this past week (not to worry, my new S is coming in 2 weeks… actual 2 weeks). It sold in 18 hours at my asking price!

I’m asking this to make myself feel better - What would you pay for a 2015 dual motor S with 80k miles and all the upgrades possible and in spectacular condition?

Hmmm.... Honestly? I'd say $40k. Though you didn't say the battery size so I'll assume 85-90kwh.

 

[lolachampcar]

I'm not disputing history or what you want or don't want, or even what you should buy. I'm just questioning your conclusions about when the car will be able to drive itself.

Seems a difficult position given history.

 

[2101Guy]

Tell me an option that doesn't transfer to a new owner when you sell any car.

Free supercharging was a free option on my 2017 s. It did not transfer to the private buyer I sold it to

 

[lolachampcar]

Just remember that everyone laughed at Wilbur, saying that he'd never get Orville off the ground...

There is a chance for failure; I believe Elon has even said as much. I suspect like you I am unwilling to bet against a guy who's team landed two boosters side by side. At the same time, I am all to familiar with "Elon Time" and have a hard time believing it will happen anytime soon. How many changes in direction have there been as Tesla finds its way through the FSD maze? How ever more elaborate have the solutions become (DoJo)?

Let's just say I have faith tamped with a dose of reality. No need to spend $10K now.

 

[2101Guy]

So I think I may have underpriced my old S that sold this past week (not to worry, my new S is coming in 2 weeks… actual 2 weeks). It sold in 18 hours at my asking price!

I’m asking this to make myself feel better - What would you pay for a 2015 dual motor S with 80k miles and all the upgrades possible and in spectacular condition?

I found kbb.com to be spot on when I sold my 2017 s earlier this summer. I sold dead middle of private party price at next to top condition.

 

[lolachampcar]

You can read some of florida man's best hits here:

Snippiness 2.0

He has spent spent a great deal of his time here lashing out at ANYONE that questions any of his views/choices/opinions. He has belittled and straight out insulted many people here. He mocks their cars, their situations, even their names. He has made it very clear on several occasions he has no use for this forum.

I can almost guarantee he will come back here, but only when he has great photos to post. He won't use that opportunity to to make it a positive experience for everyone else. He will brag, talk about how he made the best choices, and then take the time to insult a few people on the way out, me included.

I was hoping his ban was permanent, after he intentionally circumvented the language filters, and then lashed out at the community as a whole. If he does use the other threads here, it won't be long before he is banned again. He has thin skin and a massive ego. Something most of us deal with in our 20's. He's in his 50's. That's just sad.

Why???????

 

[lolachampcar]

Also fair points. Maybe a couple more observations.

There is a foot race and I agree who crosses the finish line first will see a windfall, and it might be that Tesla has an insurmountable lead so it is them plus a number of #2s which are "good enough". As regulations and minimum requirements firm up, I expect some normalization of capabilities, and increase the price pressure on whomever the market leader is on how much of a premium they can charge (i.e. what the difference is in perceived value and if its meaningful).

I think the other thing is there is not just one autonomy finish line. I see delivery vehicles, robot-taxis and autonomous personal vehicles as potentially 3 different markets that could have different winners.

I see Tesla setting the bar for what is acceptable data to regulators. IF they are as transparent as they claim, they could use their engineering and technological (simulation & data collection) advantage to place the documentation side of regulatory approval so high that others will have a hard time meeting the bar. This will not last forever but a smart first has the advantage of setting the rules for others that follow.

 

[Sigma4Life]

Is DCU good company to finance with?
Do they send you the check directly and let you fill in the amount up to a maximum (penfed does this)?
How long was the process?

Any advice/feedback is appreciated.

Yes, I financed my previous Model S with them and plan to use them again on my Plaid order. They can send the check directly to you and they can finance up to 100% of the purchase.

 

[2101Guy]

Is DCU good company to finance with?
Do they send you the check directly and let you fill in the amount up to a maximum (penfed does this)?
How long was the process?

Any advice/feedback is appreciated.

Many have reported that you apply with DCU, get confirmed (but you dont fully accept) for their lowest rate, then contact Tesla and they will match the rate. That way Im guessing you dont have to go through the whole direct deposit thing with DCU. E Either way, you may want to check this thread

Best interest rate via Tesla financing?

I was just approved for 2.75% @ 72 months no down payment. Not sure if I'll keep that but it does appear to be a competitive rate I ordered 3/1/2020 Blue performance, Black Int, FSD, standard wheels In the " drafting contract " status as of yesterday

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