Twincam23
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Got some jokers up in here.
TBH, i’d wait for the iPhone XX Maximus.
Got some autonomous *sugar* built in...
TBH, i’d wait for the iPhone XX Maximus.
Got some autonomous *sugar* built in...
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Should I buy HW3 now or wait for hw4?
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Adding depth perceiving cameras would add to the reliability that the neural net is estimating.
Knightshade
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It already has them thanks to overlapping camera views (and multiple front cameras). Showing how well it can create a map of depth from the cameras was explicitly part of their presentation yesterday.
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insaneoctane
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Well, I'm still using my flip phone because every time I decide I'm going to buy a new-fangled smartphone, there is already a new and better model just about to be released!
I missed it earlier, but apparently there is an AP4 with a tiny bit of information out there...
It wasn't in the summaries or the sections of the event I saw until today, but Elon did make a couple of mentions of the next generation system they're working on in response to questions at the Autonomy event yesterday.
They're "about halfway through development" and "expecting to introduce it in two years" and it'll be "three times better" and "do the obvious things you'd expect them to improve"
(the last was in answer to a question about why they're using an older 40 nm die setup - the rest of the answer apparently being that some of the other parts of the chip they licensed weren't available in a smaller size at the time of development - so presumably it'll be on a much smaller chip.)
The answers to other questions suggest Tesla is quite confident that they won't need any more or different sensors, so I'd expect that if there's a reason to retrofit it won't be hard.
It wasn't in the summaries or the sections of the event I saw until today, but Elon did make a couple of mentions of the next generation system they're working on in response to questions at the Autonomy event yesterday.
They're "about halfway through development" and "expecting to introduce it in two years" and it'll be "three times better" and "do the obvious things you'd expect them to improve"
(the last was in answer to a question about why they're using an older 40 nm die setup - the rest of the answer apparently being that some of the other parts of the chip they licensed weren't available in a smaller size at the time of development - so presumably it'll be on a much smaller chip.)
The answers to other questions suggest Tesla is quite confident that they won't need any more or different sensors, so I'd expect that if there's a reason to retrofit it won't be hard.
steve1313
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I would not be surprised if they end up deciding to get high resolution, color gamut or frame rate cameras, but given the rapidly increasing size of the fleet and the desire to have them all autonomous, i wouldn't be surprised if they design them to be retrofit into the existing camera locations (with a possible upgrade fee).
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Knightshade
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dhanson865
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Not so much, the AP 2.x computers can't process the existing frames at full resolution so the Camera already in the cars will be used at higher resolution just by putting the HW3 computer in. No need to put better cameras in.
Said another way the cameras in the cars are too high resolution for the AP 2.x computers and are likely just right for HW3 computer.
It is more likely a dojo chip because of the large size. Only 25 chips per 12 inch wafer.
iamnid
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Based on the article and when it believes HW4 will make it to cars, the title of this thread should read, "Should I buy HW3 now or wait until 2022?"
If you want to wait 2 years, I suppose, yeah, wait. I'm sure there will be the added benefit of other improvements as well, apart from just the faster chip in HW4.
If you want to wait 2 years, I suppose, yeah, wait. I'm sure there will be the added benefit of other improvements as well, apart from just the faster chip in HW4.
DanCar -Waiting for the next hardware version full self-driving computer (FSD) is really a matter of choice. If you have the money now and the need to use FSD on a regular basis I would say yes. I would think that anyone who has purchased FSD could get the upgrade in time, but whether it is free or not is only speculation. At the time of the Autonomy Day presentation in April 2019 Elon Musk said they are about halfway through the design of the next generation full self-driving (FSD) computer.
LoL thanks for the link. Yup. Reaffirms I’m not putting in another cent on this car.
I believe Mobileye's concern was around two items. One, they did not like implementations that risked user safety, and they claim their system was not designed or intended to be used in an autopilot-like system. For them, a part of the concern came to fruition when a Tesla Model S drove under the trailer of a semi - no matter the cause, it brought risk to their brand image among the big OEMs that use their chips. Two, they did not want Tesla reverse engineering it, and it's much harder to prove if that was going on as Tesla made plans to produce their own autopilot system.
Generally, I trust Mobileye and believe they have a good long term vision. This is not to knock Tesla in any way, because they've made an excellent system.
Terminator857
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Rumor: HW4 can support up to 13 cameras
It's an unsubstantiated rumor at this point so take it with a big grain of salt. But do we believe it? I think it has a ring of truth to it. It would make sense for Tesla to upgrade the cameras at some point. Furthermore, other companies like Mobileye are using 12 cameras. So I could definitely...
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