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Also car was 1week short of AP2 and I also noticed that rear camera is mutch more clear then on early 2016. It is same clear as 2018 loaner I had few days ago.
Confusing...
scottrobertson
Member
I would not get too excited. Customer service reps are not normally informed before we are about releases.
This is probably also a cultural thing. But around here there is a default lane, the right lane.
And for very good reason. Having a mix of fast and slow drivers in both lanes induced unsafe driving behavior like zig-zag driving by fast drivers to get faster ahead and many times more lane changes.
Having slow drivers only in right lane, and fast drivers only while overtaking in left lane induces a lot less lane changes and improves traffic congestion significantly for all drivers. I hope they had that in mind when adapting AP2 to other regions.
DDotJ
Member
Yes, Tesla switched out the rear camera for a better one around the same time. But unfortunately you don't have the other hardware (the other 6 cameras or the SoC/computer) to have EAP capabilities. I believe the rear camera isn't even connected to the AP Mobileye chip, it only displays a video stream to the center screen and therefore isn't used at all with AutoPilot.
It's already tomorrow morning in our part of the world... meh, still nothing.
Why is the car not going back to the right lane after overtaking slower traffic? At the end you get the same result as if you positioned the car to the most left lane from the start.
There will be a lots of tickets at least in Europe for this stupid behavior, as we are usually not allowed in the other lanes than the right one when not overtaking (unless in a city).
There will be a lots of tickets at least in Europe for this stupid behavior, as we are usually not allowed in the other lanes than the right one when not overtaking (unless in a city).
You can always hit the blinker to move over ;-)
I think it just needs to be optimized a bit more. The current implementation is showing great promise, but it will not be perfect on day 1.
The MCU can see the backing camera. You can run fast and efficient car recognition without deep learning too. "Classical" machine learning / computer vision can be used. The Tegra should handle that. And since it's a "slow" situation you don't need 200 FPS processing. Older raspberry PIs were even able to do this with OpenCV.
They probably won't do it because it's too much hassle and introduces new code paths for old cars, and is an inferior and not 100% solution.
Yes, except other slow drivers would also hang out in the left lane too. So to overtake you have to shift lanes left-right all the time, or at worst you get stuck behind two slow drivers occupying both lanes. Silly behaviour, makes no sense to encourage that.
I guess this is one of the reasons Drive on Nav comes later in Europe. Because they have to test/adapt to European driving culture and laws.
DDotJ
Member
That's the dream, I want to move to Europe now.
My commute is riddled with people going 65 mph (104 km) across all 5 lanes of traffic like a slow moving barricade.I'm curious how Tesla is going to tackle cultural driving behavior in EAP. I guess we'll find out soon
I also wouldn't get too excited. I'd be very surprised at this point if they start a wide v9.0 rollout tomorrow... With that said, 39.2 feels pretty polished/has the release notes cleaned up/etc and feels like it could be the GM or close to it.
In any case, if you're like me and don't get your car onto wifi very often, make sure it sits for a day or two connected to a good WiFi signal so you can pull down the latest maps that are needed for navigate on autopilot. These should download even on older firmware and will get you ready to go as quickly as possible once v9 is released.
I like the tomorrow in quotation marks. We're all basing our assumption that we're getting this release on Oct 1 based on one person who spoke to one service centre. In my experience, the SCs know nothing about releases...
From the description in the release notes, it should look similar to what you see in the videos without requiring confirmation: the lane it wants to go in gets a gray flashing line going down it.
That's the dream, I want to move to Europe now.
I'm curious how Tesla is going to tackle cultural driving behavior in EAP. I guess we'll find out soon
Speaking of cultural behaviour. How does it handle cars merging in today? Either it doesn't react at all or it simply doesn't slow down early enough. I always have to disable it when a car comes on in a merging situation.
Is there any way to tell if maps have been downloaded if you aren't able to monitor wifi traffic?
DDotJ
Member
For me, it brakes once the car has already entered the lane. I keep following distance to 3-4 so that there is somewhat enough room for someone to merge in. But yesterday someone cut into my lane and the car slammed on the brakes, so I had to disengage it.
I hope they get the turn signal detection down soon, because more often than not I have to disengage to yield to a merging vehicle.
