Tesla Model 3 in Australia

[matsoutback]

While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.

The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.

My angle would be 2 fold, 1. Longevity of the drivetrain vs an ICE and 2. The resale of an ICE in 10 years once electric vehicles are more popular / readily available / mandatory. There are real savings from year to year too, even only driving 10k a year. Otherwise point them in the direction of a Kona etc if they don’t value or enjoy driving, at least they’ve made the switch from ICE. One you look at the Hyundai etc offerings, the Tesla still stacks up well, if you get them that far. Good luck, next thing is to save for yourself and lead by example.

 

[Grenadine]

Don't point them to a Kona. That will truly put them off. God what an awful car.

 

[PJF000]

While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.

The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.

Easily resolved. Just ask your Dad how much value does he put on his family's life and how would he feel if he had an accident and someone died. It is very hard to die in a Tesla!!

 

[Hairyman]

Easily resolved. Just ask your Dad how much value does he put on his family's life and how would he feel if he had an accident and someone died. It is very hard to die in a Tesla!!

Especially since if you are in a Tesla you are already in Heaven.

 

[Vedaprime]

Current Cap Capricorn position

Cap Capricorn now listed on arrivals Port Botany. Daily Vessel Movements | Port Authority New South Wales

Sat 17 6pm

 

[Blue heaven]

While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.

The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.

Be patient but also point out that if finances are important any passenger vehicle with an internal combustion engine is soon to be a stranded asset.

 

[sczsimos]

I am planning on taking the SR+ down from Sydney to around Eden area. There is only one Supercharger on the way in Narooma and it is 350+kms away from me.

The Nrma supercharger at Batemans Bay is less than 300 from where I am on the nth shore. Won't that do?

 

[paulp]

I've read somewhere in regen braking, only about 50% of the energy (to achieve the given speed) ends up back in the battery. So although much better than an ICE, there's still a considerable loss of energy. Most economical driving would be a constant speed and slow, slow enough before aerodynamics becomes a significant component of the drag equation, i.e. below 80km/h.

Or just charge your car with solar for free and drive at whatever speed you want.

 

[maveric74]

While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.

The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.

WTF? You are 16 and you wrote this piece? Well..I'm so impressed..Couple of questions..

1. Why are you obsessed with Tesla? I have a classic car and I fuss over it as much as I fuss over my delivery date for the Model 3.
2. You need to find a way to rationally (not emotionally) transfer that enthusiasm across to the tribe elders and the financial controller. Get them interested. They have to see their NEED, not your WANT.
3. And if they don't buy that, give them the emotional and personal angle of the suffering you and your next of will be subjected to from the horrors of climate change..yeah! get personal ;-p

Good luck.

 

[maveric74]

Ok deliveries questions guys..I'm in Melbourne, btw.

1. So, eventually a Tesla delivery specialist will ring us I'm guessing? Once payment has been finalised, is your car then delivered on a truck or driven to you? Or do you pickup from store? Prefer my wife to be the first to really be the first
2. Will it come with rego? I'm guessing normal number plates? We have custom plates already. Does anyone know what the procedure is for swapping to custom plates with VicRoads? And how long will that take?
3. I think I read here somewhere that if you can't accept delivery someone else can but they need a letter of authority? Does this need to be hand-written or a certified copy?
4. Is the car fully charged or somewhat charged when delivered?

If anyone else in Melbourne, I'd love to catch up for a coffee and go for a drive and exchange feedback/suggestions? After all, we are the first adopters huh? And we do amazing coffee in Melbourne yeah? ;-p

 

[EcoCloudIT]

@maveric74

1. So, eventually a Tesla delivery specialist will ring us I'm guessing? Once payment has been finalised, is your car then delivered on a truck or driven to you? Or do you pickup from store? Prefer my wife to be the first to really be the first

Pick up from store, you wont be the first to drive the car, or your wife....it will have been driven around 50km's by the time it reaches you

2. Will it come with rego? I'm guessing normal number plates? We have custom plates already. Does anyone know what the procedure is for swapping to custom plates with VicRoads? And how long will that take?

Yes, registered. You can go with the plates VicRoad's supply to Tesla or you can pre-organise custom plates and give to Tesla to attach before you pick up the car (they then take care of it for you). Or if you do it after the pickup you just order the plates, once you get delivery attached to the car and update VicRoads (can be done online)

3. I think I read here somewhere that if you can't accept delivery someone else can but they need a letter of authority? Does this need to be hand-written or a certified copy?

Not 100% sure, however full payment would need to be complete if someone else is going to be picking up the car for you.

4. Is the car fully charged or somewhat charged when delivered?

Both my Tesla's have been fully charged (80%) when I have picked up

You're a forth wave of early adopters (talking Australian's here)....I put it like this...First wave (P85+ buyers 2014), Second wave Model S Gen 2 buyers (late 2015, me) 3. Third wave (Shape change, Model X and AP2.0+, all came together late 2016) and Forth wave Model 3 (Late 2019).....but you're right, Melbourne is the best city in Australia for coffee

 

[rioli33]

WTF? You are 16 and you wrote this piece? Well..I'm so impressed..Couple of questions..

1. Why are you obsessed with Tesla? I have a classic car and I fuss over it as much as I fuss over my delivery date for the Model 3.
2. You need to find a way to rationally (not emotionally) transfer that enthusiasm across to the tribe elders and the financial controller. Get them interested. They have to see their NEED, not your WANT.
3. And if they don't buy that, give them the emotional and personal angle of the suffering you and your next of will be subjected to from the horrors of climate change..yeah! get personal ;-p

Good luck.

1. Well, I suppose my obsession with Tesla originated from my pre-existing obsession with technology. I must admit like many other people here, I was a Tesla fan before I was an EV fan. I find the vehicles compelling in the sense that they are able to achieve a seamless experience between their software and their hardware. Let's not also forget the stomach-churning speed and electric drive. I was always the kid who wanted the latest iPad as a kid and wanted the latest phone as a pre-teen so I'm now into the latest automotive technology. I also have grown to admire Elon Musk and his mission to create a better future.

2. That's why I'm holding out for test drives to become available. Dad likes the sporty European feel of the Accord Euro and hopefully, the Model 3 can offer the same fun drive. If they have no intentions to buy, I'll make sure the test drive is on a special occasion (maybe my birthday) since you can only really take it once.

3. I don't think the climate change thing will work on them but it's worth a shot. I reckon people buy Tesla because they're spectacular cars, the green side of things is a bonus.

 

[paulp]

Easily resolved. Just ask your Dad how much value does he put on his family's life and how would he feel if he had an accident and someone died. It is very hard to die in a Tesla!!

Lucky you cant ask those that already have......bad argument if his dad reads the media.

 

[AndrewSa]

1. Well, I suppose my obsession with Tesla originated from my pre-existing obsession with technology. I must admit like many other people here, I was a Tesla fan before I was an EV fan. I find the vehicles compelling in the sense that they are able to achieve a seamless experience between their software and their hardware. Let's not also forget the stomach-churning speed and electric drive. I was always the kid who wanted the latest iPad as a kid and wanted the latest phone as a pre-teen so I'm now into the latest automotive technology. I also have grown to admire Elon Musk and his mission to create a better future.

2. That's why I'm holding out for test drives to become available. Dad likes the sporty European feel of the Accord Euro and hopefully, the Model 3 can offer the same fun drive. If they have no intentions to buy, I'll make sure the test drive is on a special occasion (maybe my birthday) since you can only really take it once.

3. I don't think the climate change thing will work on them but it's worth a shot. I reckon people buy Tesla because they're spectacular cars, the green side of things is a bonus.

I too love my European cars but when i got my audi etron and experienced electric drive for first time the European feel for a car is no longer important as the electric drive is way past anything a European manufacturer can produce ICE wise. My thoughts for you is to consider a hybrid that will suddenly become cheap now that M3 has arrived or be patient for another year or so for prices to drop second hand M3s to appear and more alternatives to arrive. 12 months is nothing

 

[paulp]

Ok deliveries questions guys..I'm in Melbourne, btw.

1. So, eventually a Tesla delivery specialist will ring us I'm guessing? Once payment has been finalised, is your car then delivered on a truck or driven to you? Or do you pickup from store? Prefer my wife to be the first to really be the first
2. Will it come with rego? I'm guessing normal number plates? We have custom plates already. Does anyone know what the procedure is for swapping to custom plates with VicRoads? And how long will that take?
3. I think I read here somewhere that if you can't accept delivery someone else can but they need a letter of authority? Does this need to be hand-written or a certified copy?
4. Is the car fully charged or somewhat charged when delivered?

If anyone else in Melbourne, I'd love to catch up for a coffee and go for a drive and exchange feedback/suggestions? After all, we are the first adopters huh? And we do amazing coffee in Melbourne yeah? ;-p

You’re about half a decade behind australia’s first tesla adopters, the ones who bought not really knowing where the car will be charged or how repairs will occur.
Suggest you have your questions ready for when the delivery specialist calls. Only they can give you definitive answers. Your quote online for the car included 12 months rego though.

 

[maveric74]

You’re about half a decade behind australia’s first tesla adopters.

I kinda meant model3 adopters

 

[Vedaprime]

View attachment 438755

Current Cap Capricorn position

Cap Capricorn now listed on arrivals Port Botany. Daily Vessel Movements | Port Authority New South Wales

Sat 17 6pm

Nope. Sydney - Still Fri 16th 12pm, Arr.
Dep is Sat 17th 6pm, and goes to Melbourne next Arr 19th, then Adelaide Arr 21st

 

[paulp]

Nope. Sydney - Still Fri 16th 12pm, Arr.
Dep is Sat 17th 6pm, and goes to Melbourne next Arr 19th, then Adelaide Arr 21st

Unless you see a large drop in draught in NZ there will be none onboard.

 

[jaykaye]

The Nrma supercharger at Batemans Bay is less than 300 from where I am on the nth shore. Won't that do?

I looked it up. It's a destination charger. Having two small children and trying to get the whole drive to Eden done in a day I don't have a few hours I burn waiting for a charge and would prefer to keep the number of overall stops at 1.
I see there is a supercharger under construction in Nowra so maybe can use that one if it's available by then.

Oh man. I'm already feeling the range anxiety.

Edit: checking again I see it actually is an SC in Berry. Using "a better route planner" is awesome!
I'll incorporate that stop in my trip. Should be fine

 

[sczsimos]

I looked it up. It's a destination charger...

Edit: checking again I see it actually is an SC in Berry. My bad. Using "a better route planner" is awesome!
I'll incorporate that stop in my trip. Should be fine

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