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I'm hoping when my P- VIN reappears it has the word Unicorn in it :)

Also have a P- on order and had a VIN which has now disappeared. Given they were unofficial, it's hard to know how meaningful they ever were, but certainly does indication there's some movement (at least by the web devs).

Asked Melbourne Delivery for an update today.. got this..

Hello Jason,

I can confirm that we are receiving cars at this stage, exact dates on entry are hard to really get a grasp on as well as numbers.
The ones that are in Sydney will be moved to the respective states and will go through the pre-delivery process. You will be notified as soon as yours is ready and we have a delivery date set.

As far as invoicing, as you’ve completed the pre delivery work on your end, keep a check on your Tesla account, the invoices are starting to get generated so as soon as yours is, it will show up there!!
You’ll be the first to know about it!

Have a good day,
 
I’m a Victorian VINless P+ reservation holder (ordered on 31/5) and I got a call from an unknown number today and hearing that it was a Tesla rep my heart jumped... but it was just a call to sort out some questions about my self organised loan. Either way it was good to talk to a live person :)

What I found out was that:

Orders from non-eastern states will be contacted earlier than qld/nsw/vic to alleviate the longer lead time with deliveries. A few posts ago someone wrote something similar.

Supposedly they will start delivering to customers in 2-3 weeks.

Invoices will be sent out once a car has been matched up to the order.

All of this is nothing new so it’s more of a confirmation. Plus it keeps me sane while I wait for my car (or at least a VIN!!)
 
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Apologies my reference was to model S characteristics based on the connector type that Ray has (which I did say). The older single phase 40 amp connectors do 40kmh when connected to an S.
I got the impression the post was about adapting that connector type.
Connector type has absolutely nothing to do with the range added per hour. Range is a function of available energy, and energy efficiency.

For example: the Model 3 LR and Performance have a 75 kWh battery. They also have a nominal range of 500km. That means that every kWh (energy) charged into the battery will add 6.6666 (repeating) km of range.

The Model S LR, on the other hand (using the current model figures) has a 100 kWh battery, and a nominal range of 600 km. That means that every kWh charged into the battery will add 6 km of range.

So let's take a basic, every day 32 amp single phase circuit. Power equals voltage times current. Nominal voltage is 230 volts. Therefore, the nominal power supplied by that circuit is (230 * 32) = 7,360 watts, or 7.36 kW. (These are the definitions in metric units; metric is deliberately designed so that the numbers work out cleanly that way, rather than needing a conversion factor.) Energy is equal to power times time, so each hour of charging would supply 7.36 kWh of energy into the battery (ignoring charging inefficiencies.) Based upon 6km/kWh on the Model S, that equates to 44.16 km of range. Based upon 6.6666/kWh on the Model 3, it also equates to just under 50 km of range.

Meaning: the added range you'll get per hour will depend upon the energy efficiency of the car. The Model 3 is more energy efficient than the S, therefore it gets more range on the same circuit for a given period of time.
 
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I don’t have shares in Tesla (I wish I did and if there’s a way to buy them from AUS that’s hedges against the US currency, let me know). Even without owning shares I hope they make an absolute boat load of money, to be very successful and ensure we have great service in the long term and to help the planet transition to a renewable economy.
I have a heap of Tesla stock, all purchased through stake.com.au. You can't hedge against currency fluctuations, but they do make it easy to buy US stocks.
 
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Connector type has absolutely nothing to do with the range added per hour. Range is a function of available energy, and energy efficiency.

For example: the Model 3 LR and Performance have a 75 kWh battery. They also have a nominal range of 500km. That means that every kWh (energy) charged into the battery will add 6.6666 (repeating) km of range.

The Model S LR, on the other hand (using the current model figures) has a 100 kWh battery, and a nominal range of 600 km. That means that every kWh charged into the battery will add 6 km of range.

So let's take a basic, every day 32 amp single phase circuit. Power equals voltage times current. Nominal voltage is 230 volts. Therefore, the nominal power supplied by that circuit is (230 * 32) = 7,360 watts, or 7.36 kW. (These are the definitions in metric units; metric is deliberately designed so that the numbers work out cleanly that way, rather than needing a conversion factor.) Energy is equal to power times time, so each hour of charging would supply 7.36 kWh of energy into the battery (ignoring charging inefficiencies.) Based upon 6km/kWh on the Model S, that equates to 44.16 km of range. Based upon 6.6666/kWh on the Model 3, it also equates to just under 50 km of range.

Meaning: the added range you'll get per hour will depend upon the energy efficiency of the car. The Model 3 is more energy efficient than the S, therefore it gets more range on the same circuit for a given period of time.
That all nice but an original single phase hpwc (which once again is what I was referring to) charging a model s at 32 amps charges at 32kmh, plus or minus 1kmh depending on voltage. Now I know I only owned one of those for 3 years, but if someone with an original hpwc could show me a pic of single phase 32A charging their car (model s) with a single onboard charger at 44kmh I’d be most grateful and enlightened.
Also can someone shed some light on the real range, because I suspect NEDC isnt even close. Its certainly not on mine.
 
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Also have a P- on order and had a VIN which has now disappeared. Given they were unofficial, it's hard to know how meaningful they ever were, but certainly does indication there's some movement (at least by the web devs).

Asked Melbourne Delivery for an update today.. got this..

Hello Jason,

I can confirm that we are receiving cars at this stage, exact dates on entry are hard to really get a grasp on as well as numbers.
The ones that are in Sydney will be moved to the respective states and will go through the pre-delivery process. You will be notified as soon as yours is ready and we have a delivery date set.

As far as invoicing, as you’ve completed the pre delivery work on your end, keep a check on your Tesla account, the invoices are starting to get generated so as soon as yours is, it will show up there!!
You’ll be the first to know about it!

Have a good day,

Complete meaningless drivel [from Tesla] . It must be intended as such. Seems to be an active disinformation campaign.
 
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I find it extremely unlikely that Tesla does not know exactly what is going on. I think it boils down to incompetence rather than anything. As if the "numbers" are hard to get a grasp on. It's not like tesla just throws a random quantity packaged by weight onto a ship.

They've produced the cars. They knew how many were on the boats. The fact that they are still spouting this keep an eye on your account this is crazy.
 
I am not advising you to buy Tesla shares. I just note that I purchased a few through CommSec - i.e. they have the capacity to let you invest in international shares... for a small fee...
My understanding is that you didn’t actually buy Tesla shares. From what I’ve read, most online brokers that let you “buy” international shares, like CommSec, are actually selling you a unit in a Trust that owns the shares. If you actually owned Tesla shares, you would get voting papers etc to vote in shareholder meetings. Did you ever get those? Happy to be corrected.
 
I find it extremely unlikely that Tesla does not know exactly what is going on. I think it boils down to incompetence rather than anything. As if the "numbers" are hard to get a grasp on. It's not like tesla just throws a random quantity packaged by weight onto a ship.

They've produced the cars. They knew how many were on the boats. The fact that they are still spouting this keep an eye on your account this is crazy.

Yeah the staff in Australia act like they are something different to Tesla. Go figure. It's not incompetence. It's some sort of Tesla disinformation feature.
 
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I find it extremely unlikely that Tesla does not know exactly what is going on. I think it boils down to incompetence rather than anything. As if the "numbers" are hard to get a grasp on. It's not like tesla just throws a random quantity packaged by weight onto a ship.

They've produced the cars. They knew how many were on the boats. The fact that they are still spouting this keep an eye on your account this is crazy.
It seems more a case that in keeping with company policy they dont want to divulge details, and come up with standard statements to cover off questions. It’s not incompetance, although the ability to correctly communicate company policy maybe could be improved.
 
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After what seemed like eternity checking for my VIN, it popped up tonight :)!

5YJ3F7EA2KF4427xx

According to @Vedaprime's list, that's from the July 7 batch. What does that mean?

Reservation: 2016-04-02
Order: 2019-06-01
Model: Black SR+
Payment: Cash
City: Melbourne
Tesla Owner: No

Keeping my phone fully charged and on max. ringer volume :D.
 
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My understanding is that you didn’t actually buy Tesla shares. From what I’ve read, most online brokers that let you “buy” international shares, like CommSec, are actually selling you a unit in a Trust that owns the shares. If you actually owned Tesla shares, you would get voting papers etc to vote in shareholder meetings. Did you ever get those? Happy to be corrected.

No Vostok, I believe you own the shares directly and yes, I do get to vote on my shares.

The following is from the CommSec website:

"Security
Own your international shares direct. CommSec offers a fully disclosed model where the end client is disclosed and enters into an agreement with the executing broker and custodian.

Securities are held in your name through Pershing - a member of the Securities Investor Protection Corporation (SIPC), which protects the securities of its members up to USD$500,000 (including USD $250,000 for cash claims)."




Again, this is just for information, not a recommendation.