Tesla Model 3 in Australia

[Vedaprime]

White interiors seem to be starting in the last known vin 517xxx range. This is likely Debussy (Syd arrival Oct 4). This was a large batch of 25000 vins (3 wks production) and this is at the end of the range. Set you expectations for lateish October customer delivery.

Melina vins (4987xx-4992xx) and ANL Tongala (5036xx - 5037xx) . I have split this vin up into about 7000ish vin production weeks on the tracker sheet, and they too will be very difficult to deliver in September given 2 weeks+ in logistics processing

Also, I am expecting a drop in numbers shipped in from the US in September, as production focusses on North America - where deliveries must be completed by for the end of quarter sales numbers. I am not subscribing to a zero number based upon what I am seeing in th numbers, just a lot fewer.

Latest on vinship tracker. AUNZVInTracking

 

[Hairyman]

I guess u kinda need resistance heating to heat the air after it gets chilled by aircon to be an effective demister .I'm thinking maybe that's why Tesla went with resistance heating. My A3 etron was efficient at collecting waste heat from transmission, electronics,battery or engine. Drive a few kms and would get free heat from transmission whilst petrol engine hadn't even started. Very complex cooling circuits but smart. Electric heating when u did use it killed the range!

That has been my experience with that car too.

 

[CAM3RON]

Anyone know if Tesla are doing Saturday calls to arrange deliveries?

 

[meowsers]

Some delivery specialists have told me that I need to wait until the following day to purchase software without it adding to the LCT. On one occasion I believe I bought EAP on my phone on the way home from delivery without paying LCT. On my other 2 cars, I purchased AP and FSD at a later date with no LCT. You can definitely avoid paying LCT on FSD or AP if you wait. Tesla used to charge a higher amount after delivery so it usually worked similar but I was always able to save at least a few hundred dollars. Calculate it first and ask your delivery specialist what the price is after delivery.

If you completed a transaction that somehow increased LCT, Tesla would be responsible for paying it not you. LCT is a tax imposed on the importer/seller, not the buyer. They simply choose to pass it on. I would have no qualms about purchasing the same day, because I even if there was LCT somehow due (via future ATO audit etc) Tesla would be stuck with it. After the delivery, with payment completed there would be no way on earth they could collect this from you. I suppose they could refund your FSD purchase.

White interiors seem to be starting in the last known vin 517xxx range. This is likely Debussy (Syd arrival Oct 4). This was a large batch of 25000 vins (3 wks production) and this is at the end of the range. Set you expectations for lateish October customer delivery.

Melina vins (4987xx-4992xx) and ANL Tongala (5036xx - 5037xx) . I have split this vin up into about 7000ish vin production weeks on the tracker sheet, and they too will be very difficult to deliver in September given 2 weeks+ in logistics processing

Thanks for your analysis. you've been pretty spot on thus far. We will wait and see how it pans out when those white interiors get closer to delivery dates. I asked about this yesterday, and was told to ignore the VIN because they are often out of order / produced simultaneously. It would be in their interest to get all the white interiors first because those are high-margin cars. Oh well, all will be revealed with time.

NB Very interesting read about Tesla VIN dates and assignments Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

 

[PJF000]

Purely hypothetical question for the lawyers:

You should send the sheriff in to get your property since they won’t refund and they won’t deliver the car. I wonder hypothetically since the vehicle is paid, has title passed to you now?

The sheriff needs a court order. If and when you got that, you could just buy the model Y instead.

 

[Dakah3]

Hi Fumiphobic - We both ordered in July probably as soon as White interior opened (or no more than a few days since). Let's hope there is a shipment of white interior to Perth. Having said that - US and Europe owners who have white say its magnificent - so I figure its worth waiting for! Cheers. See you on the streets in Perth sometime, or perhaps on delivery day

Fantastic seeing so many cars coming to Perth, who knows may even help us get a second supercharger station in WA!

 

[aegidius]

S and X 11kw and 17kw

So you can still get the high power charger option? I thought that was canned a while back..

 

[apchoo]

1. HPWC install mod - I've seen here or elsewhere people discussing putting a 3phase plug and socket in line in there install at home. I originally thought this to be silly given that cheaper just to get electrician to install hard wired. But been thinking about road trips. If you put a 3 phase plug on the HPWC you could take it with you on a road trip (you not going to need it at home when you are out road tripping) then could be used at sites with 3 phase outlet. Any reason why this would not work or not a good idea?

I don't have 3-phase at home but I'm also considering the same setup albeit single-phase like what @meowsers did here:
Melbourne HPWC installation

I'd take the HPWC with me when we move house and leave the socket for the new owner instead of a nest of wires.

Has anyone else gone down this path?

 

[Vedaprime]

I asked about this yesterday, and was told to ignore the VIN because they are often out of order / produced simultaneously. It would be in their interest to get all the white interiors first because those are high-margin cars. Oh well, all will be revealed with time.

NB Very interesting read about Tesla VIN dates and assignments Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

I expected this too re vins, but the data seems to be linear at the moment. Re the Bloomberg tracker, I have been watching it for a long time as it monitored vins. It seemed to be be an accurate trend predictor. This is how I became a vin believer and what they can mean with a bit of analysis.

Re white. What I have noticed is once there is a change in the web configurator, there is a space of a few weeks for that to filter down to the production line. Maybe it has something to do with some supply chain logistics/planning at a guess. The line itself seems pretty easily reconfigurable, and seats are made in-house anyway.

So far, the data is speaking pretty accurately.

And white still could pop up, in a vin range not known and assigned yet.

 

[jowetts]

Purely hypothetical question for the lawyers:

You should send the sheriff in to get your property since they won’t refund and they won’t deliver the car. I wonder hypothetically since the vehicle is paid, has title passed to you now?

I asked Tesla if they have registered the car in my name and they confirmed in writing, " no ". So basically my 100k (and everyone else's) is in Tesla's bank account. Nice move Tesla.

 

[Priit]

59k would be the price of the Standard Range before taxes, registration, Autopilot and + options. You can actually order this car by phone and it would be the exact same car as your order just software activated limitations (lower range, no heated rear seats etc). It's probably possible to still remove these + options before delivery, they can also be paid for and unlocked later.

The option for SR downgrade has been available in USA, but is not available in Australia. Same for the order by phone. Tesla specifically states that on the Australian FAQ page:
Are there any ‘off menu’ configurations available?
No. Currently the only vehicles on offer in Australia & New Zealand are those available on the website.
Order and Delivery - Model 3
When you look at that FAQ page for USA or Europe, they do not have that off-menu restriction.

 

[Vedaprime]

In the US, there was an opportunity to help at the delivery centres - from existing owners - to assist the delivery process during the logistics ramp. Elon said yes to the help, and it was a success. The signs are increasing we are going to experience the same thing near the end of September - a logistics bottleneck.

If the various leaders of the Aussie-NZ various Tesla groups reach out to Tesla to offer help, they might be willing to have a coordinated volunteer army assist. The social influencers and press can help rally the Teslarmy.

The tasks people did were things like downloading/setting up the app/ bluetooth pairing/ driver profiles/ q&a and generally assisting while the Tesla staff focussed on the transaction process - speeding up and helping all to have a good experience

I would help, even if not an existing owner, if it meant my car was delivered sooner - not everyone is tech savvy.

 

[one4spl]

I asked Tesla if they have registered the car in my name and they confirmed in writing, " no ". So basically my 100k (and everyone else's) is in Tesla's bank account. Nice move Tesla.

You've made your point. Many times. We get it. Now shoosh.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

Some delivery specialists have told me that I need to wait until the following day to purchase software without it adding to the LCT. On one occasion I believe I bought EAP on my phone on the way home from delivery without paying LCT. On my other 2 cars, I purchased AP and FSD at a later date with no LCT. You can definitely avoid paying LCT on FSD or AP if you wait. Tesla used to charge a higher amount after delivery so it usually worked similar but I was always able to save at least a few hundred dollars. Calculate it first and ask your delivery specialist what the price is after delivery.

It is the same price

 

[smaldo]

Wow, so you ordered 10 days ago and already got a VIN. That seems to be really quick. I was trying to hold on for LR RWD also, but gave in and ordered SR+ on 26/8/19. I only gave in cause they threatened me with the price hike end of this week. So far not expecting VIN or anything for another month or two, though the order page suggested October delivery, I have been keeping my expectation more on November delivery with possibility to drag into the start of December.

I came to the conclusion that the SR+ would provide more than enough range for 98% of it's use. My commute is 90km round trip 4 days a week. I have family that live in Wodonga and it's 300kms one way. There's a supercharger and Chargefox charger at Euroa so all good.

Did you have a reservation? Hoping my car might arrive earlier than I thought.... can only hope!

 

[stuartl]

I asked Tesla if they have registered the car in my name and they confirmed in writing, " no ". So basically my 100k (and everyone else's) is in Tesla's bank account. Nice move Tesla.

So are you going to buy the car, or not? If not, then cancel the order and be done with it. If you are, refunding your money would incur administrative expenses on Tesla’s part, for no significant good reason: they’d have to mark the order unpaid, transfer funds (which they might not have on hand; they might have made payment to the USA, for example, and hence might only have minimal unallocated funds for unbudgeted expenses), and chase you for a new payment when the car is ready. (Which, by all accounts, will only be a week or two later than originally thought.)

In short, your expectations are unrealistic. Either cancel, or deal with it.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

Anyone yet figured out how the 7 day refund will work with government charges?

 

[Blue heaven]

In the US, there was an opportunity to help at the delivery centres - from existing owners - to assist the delivery process during the logistics ramp. Elon said yes to the help, and it was a success. The signs are increasing we are going to experience the same thing near the end of September - a logistics bottleneck.

If the various leaders of the Aussie-NZ various Tesla groups reach out to Tesla to offer help, they might be willing to have a coordinated volunteer army assist. The social influencers and press can help rally the Teslarmy.

The tasks people did were things like downloading/setting up the app/ bluetooth pairing/ driver profiles/ q&a and generally assisting while the Tesla staff focussed on the transaction process - speeding up and helping all to have a good experience

I would help, even if not an existing owner, if it meant my car was delivered sooner - not everyone is tech savvy.

Here's my thought on this; By all reports when deliveries speed up in the next week or two Tesla will be allocating 15 minutes to each customer delivery, far less than historically. That 15 minutes is a very personal experience between the Tesla delivery specialist and the person/family getting the car, I think after waiting 3 years for a model 3 it's going to often be an emotional experience, not sure new owners would want another Tesla driver poking around, I'd also think that after 3 years of desperately waiting new owners would know more about the model 3 operating systems than Tesla model X and S drivers do. Once the car is down the road it's then a good opportunity for new owners to bond with existing experienced owners to discuss the finer details like public charging and general operation that can only be gained through experience, this is where drive days, general meet ups and forums like TMC show their worth.

 

[RobDickinson]

Anyone yet figured out how the 7 day refund will work with government charges?

NZ/OZ dont get the 7 day refund.

 

[mmui90]

NZ/OZ dont get the 7 day refund.

"Will fix"

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