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NZ Vin analysis - from what I have been told/found

All are from July 7 Vin registered batch.
Total known - 12
6 SR+
3 P-
2 P
1 Not advised

The vin range is between 4435xx ( a very low 500 number) and 4436xx (do not know XX here). Waiting for more vins

Considering the total number of orders from NZ could literally be in the 50-100 range or less pretty good spread so far.
 
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Does anyone know what the battery capacity is for the SR+? Wiki says 'TBA'. Tesla Model 3 - Wikipedia
I am planning on taking the SR+ down from Sydney to around Eden area. There is only one Supercharger on the way in Narooma and it is 350+kms away from me. Although the SR+ is advertised at 470km range, I am thinking it may not make it that far, or cut close enough that I wouldnt want to risk it.
I will have a heavily laden car with holiday stuff filled in the boot and 4 people in the car.

Edit: This video says a real world range is about 308kms for the SR+... over 30% less than advertised!! If this is true then I won't be making it to that Supercharger.

Edit2: The SR+ in that video has a range of 386kms, not 470kms like Aussie ones state. So either it is tested using a different system (why the discrepancy?) or the SR+ coming to Australia has a bigger battery pack. Anyone know if the ones we are getting are any different to the ones in the states?
 
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Does anyone know what the battery capacity is for the SR+? Wiki says 'TBA'. Tesla Model 3 - Wikipedia
I am planning on taking the SR+ down from Sydney to around Eden area. There is only one Supercharger on the way in Narooma and it is 350+kms away from me. Although the SR+ is advertised at 470km range, I am thinking it may not make it that far, or cut close enough that I wouldnt want to risk it.
I will have a heavily laden car with holiday stuff filled in the boot and 4 people in the car.
SR+ on the freeway with 4 people and holiday gear will probably do about 350km. Look around on plugshare.com to see if there are any decent chargers you can incorporate into your route. Keep in mind some chargers may have different standards that require an adaptor.
 
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Does anyone know what the battery capacity is for the SR+? Wiki says 'TBA'. Tesla Model 3 - Wikipedia
I am planning on taking the SR+ down from Sydney to around Eden area. There is only one Supercharger on the way in Narooma and it is 350+kms away from me. Although the SR+ is advertised at 470km range, I am thinking it may not make it that far, or cut close enough that I wouldnt want to risk it.
I will have a heavily laden car with holiday stuff filled in the boot and 4 people in the car.

Edit: This video says a real world range is about 308kms for the SR+... over 30% less than advertised!! If this is true then I won't be making it to that Supercharger.
Try This. Lots of parameters to play with. A Better Routeplanner. Temp, Wind, Wh/km, more
 
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While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.

The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.
 
The issue here is the average highway speed of 77km/h, on a smooth highway in warm dry conditions the car is almost in its prime, the model 3 would likely average 120wh/km, get onto a country road with a coarse surface at 100km/h and the range will go up near 160wh/km, throw in a wet road and cooler weather and the range will go up near 175wh/km.

I am guessing: add 10% to those figures and you’re getting close to real life in a Model 3...
 
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In my experience its the other way round, for reasonably flat highways at least. Model S, 160-200Wh/km in city, a steady 150-160 at 100km/h on the freeway. In any case, it accords well with the EPA range quoted for the car (battery indicator kms assume 190Wh/hm). I'd expect a 3 to do a little better in both places, and an X to do a little worse. EPA range is generally believable, NEDC ranges are pure fantasy,

Try 250Wh/km on a Model X for highway driving at the denoted speed limits.
 
While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.



The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.


In a similar boat, try making them feel bad for contributing to their child’s early death if climate change hits us as bad as they say it will.

Hopefully they come down in price after 5 years and by that time I’ll have a good job and can afford one

$70k isn’t viable unless your parents are Tesla crazy or earning large 6 figure salary’s, especially when a used outlander PHEV is only $21k, with only slightly worst running economy.
 
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Hm. Wish I hadn't! The NZ network is a little thin -- trip we have planned for January will only be viable once one of the "coming soon" superchargers opens. Supposed to be 2019, but... tesla time
The ChargeNet CCS coverage is now complete in the South Island. They just completed the Franz Joseph 50kW so easy West coast touring :)
I would have thought the North Island would be even better covered.
 
While we are all here eagerly refreshing the Tesla website, then the forums, then marinetraffic.com, then the twitter feed, then Elon's twitter, then Paul Maric's twitter (in that order) all day, I may as well see what you guys have to say about choosing to order a Model 3.

So here's my position, 16Y.O in Melbourne, obsessed with Tesla, if Tesla did work experience opportunities, I'd be there in a heartbeat. I could probably take on a product specialist in a Tesla knowledge quiz and win.

The family appreciates my enthusiasm to Tesla and my attempts to try to get them to buy one. We've taken a Model X for a day and it was awesome but at 170k, it was never (ever ever) going to happen. So lately, I've been trying to push them towards a Model 3 because 70k is a much better price point.

The most the family has ever spent on a car was a $40k Honda Accord Euro in 2009 which we still have. The mindset is that cars are a waste of money when we could go on a holiday every year or put it into our investments. Since we drive 10,000km a year in each car (Honda and Holden Captiva), the whole "it costs less to run" argument doesn't really work since it only saves a couple grand over 10 years of ownership and doesn't cover that big $30k gap.

My attempts to bring about the technology side of things and self-driving is cool but also not really a big priority. Dad is in his late 40s so he knows how to work around a screen so that's no problem. The main issue is that they seem to believe going to electric would take a weird shift and they would struggle to put themselves into that mindset of plugging in and taking stops whenever we go on a trip. It also doesn't help that the garage power isn't earthed and the car doesn't accept a charge (learnt that the hard way when we had a Model X overnight test drive).

So my questions to you, current reservation and Tesla owners, how would you try to convince someone that Tesla is the only smart option to go for when buying a car? Of course, I'm not going to go to excessive measures to try convince them to buy a Tesla because that would be unfair on them. But how would you justify the price point and guide someone into a Tesla?

I know this may come off as an awkward request that is accompanied by a long story but any help is appreciated.


Your Dad is right. Buying a car (particularly a new car and particularly an expensive new car) is the opposite of economic rationalism where the economic need being fulfilled is transportation. It will cost a lot of money in the long run particularly when you take into account opportunity costs for investing.

HOWEVER, YOLO. There comes a point where buying an expensive car is not an exercise in economics. You make sure all the money basics are taken care of (then some) and then you may as well spend the money you have on something you are going to get a lot of pleasure from. That's why I am buying a performance M3! But I sure as hell am not going to dip into investments to do so! And yes I am deliberately refraining from thinking about what that amount of money would look like in 20 years if I took the amount paid for the car and invested it. LALALALALALALA <Blocks ears and eyes>