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Hello cpoole ,
You can use my code.
Honestly, I don't know about terms and conditions.
New referral codes only for instore orders. If you've already ordered, you may cancel it and order instore.
But, 15th April is unrealistic for the UK orders. It is better to ask a Tesla sales specialist. 15th April can be a wording from the US web site. Otherwise, for the UK, only inventory demo cars or the cars on the way can be purchased. A demo car can be a previous service showroom car with low milage, or a brand new car which is preconfigured for store but not used yet.

Cheers.
 
Congrats! You are going to love this car. Seriously every day is a fantastic day in your Tesla. It's a lot of money to justify but every time you pass those horrible car accidents you see on the side of the road you'll feel better knowing that you are in the safest car money can buy. Not to mention you are part of a movement that is taking responsibility for the environment. EVs won't go mainstream without companies like Tesla.
 

Did think *every* referrer made out like a bandit on the last program, because I think in 99.999% of cases the effort expended per sale was not worth $1000.


Wait, what?

That's silly. You aren't party to either side of the transaction. You don't know the value of other's time, or how much they allocated. Your judgemental opinion of value is meaningless. Tesla felt it was worth it, as did those who worked to get referrals.

And the program also had the benefit of creating an exciting way to show loyal evangelical Tesla owners like Bonnie tangible gratitude for their ongoing support.

Did think that was the biggest flaw of the previous program, because undoubtedly some people simply used whatever random referral link they could find, in which case there was no connection between buyer and referrer and it completely undermined the spirit of the program, and that $1000 to the referrer was wasted in my opinion from Tesla's perspective.

That's sometimes called "freeridership" - and is an unavoidable part of such a program but there are things that can be done to limit this - like limiting the time period, and avoiding predictable repetition.

Would absolutely have found a way to give that $1000 back to the friend, if I were in a referrer's position.


Wow. This might be helpful: CRITICAL THINKING - Fundamentals: Introduction to Critical Thinking [HD] - YouTube

Do think Tesla should have just given the whole $2000 to the buyer, and I bet it would have resulted in more sales!


Bet you are wrong. Some put serious time and money into making sales due to the reward offered. This is generally how capitalism works - usually people like to get recognition for their efforts, most often in the form of a payment.

Do think if Tesla is gonna bring back the referral, they should just bring it back as $2000. This isn't greed. This is me actually wanting what's better for Tesla. As a potential buyer, I know that we know the discount was once $2k. I had a friend who was gonna kick me back the $1000 for the same reason I would have (and I had a spare Virginia code just in case).


Oh boy. I see, you are bummed you missed out. And you feel entitled to both sides of the deal, and now get neither. Why do I suspect your tune would change if you could participate, and found yourself investing any significant effort into selling cars?

In my mind, yeah, $2k off is the best deal so far. And I'd certainly be willing to wait for an equivalent deal. This is why I think Tesla should just quit playing shell games and admit it's just a discount and match what they did previously.

If they did that, lots of people would simply wait for "the program" and instead of creating a promotional effect, it would quickly become predominantly freeriders.


I think it would actually end up selling more Teslas.


Tesla is still supply constrained. They're going to produce roughly 90k vehicles this year. Musk has made this all pretty clear.

If they really want to sell a lot more cars they need to have them to sell. When they do they can accelerate showroom opening rate and/or start advertising.

Second guessing what is going on is interesting. Presuming to know better what to do than these really brilliant people, when you don't even know they didn't perfectly accomplish the goals set - not so much.
 
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I sent an email to Tesla to ask for a clarification on the eligibility criteria, since it is impossible for a buyer in Europe to get a Model S delivered before April 15th if they place a new order today.

The reply contradicts a bit the terms I've seen on Tesla Motors website about the referral code not being usable for CPOs...

Here it is:

I just talked to my colleagues from our sales department, to be eligible for this referral reward you would have to purchase an inventory vehicle. They are either brand new, used for marketing, demo or display.
 
That's more like it.

Hypothetically, say someone already has the 8 year pre-paid service plan, the ESA, the LTE and power folding mirror retrofits, and a Chademo adapter, what else could one possibly get for $2,000 of credit that fits those categories, and doesn't want to buy a new S or X? Also, don't need a HPWC or UMC.

A pack upgrade after they announce the next pack size increase? Assuming the credit doesn't expire and you are willing to spend thousands of dollars on top of the credit.

I'll be a year or two before that'd be an option, possibly longer than 2 years but I doubt it.

And the cost will likely be prohibitive but it'll be a viable option to sink credit into in a few years.
 

Did think *every* referrer made out like a bandit on the last program, because I think in 99.999% of cases the effort expended per sale was not worth $1000.


Wait, what?

That's silly. You aren't party to either side of the transaction. You don't know the value of other's time, or how much they allocated. Your judgemental opinion of value is meaningless. Tesla felt it was worth it, as did those who worked to get referrals.

And the program also had the benefit of creating an exciting way to show loyal evangelical Tesla owners like Bonnie tangible gratitude for their ongoing support.
Well, it's my opinion. Did I miss something, or isn't this a place where people can express opinions?
The topic of this thread is the latest iteration of the referral program, and I was expressing my opinion on that.

I do happen to have reasons for my opinion. To me, my reasons feel like common sense. But, I would not at all be offended if you disagreed with me.

I'll share some of my reasoning...I don't think my reasoning is silly or meaningless. But hey, again, just my opinion!

I'll start my admitting, 99.999% above was hyperbole. I don't *know* how many people got more than $1000 worth for their time, and I don't know how many people got less than $1000 worth.
I also don't know how many hours equals $1000 to any particular person who participated in the last referral program. But...let's throw some numbers out and see what sticks...

How likely is it that someone's spare time is worth $200 per hour? I'm gonna use that as my upper cost of time. Surely there are folks who own Tesla's and have jobs that
pay them $200/hour. I would argue that a person wouldn't expect to earn as much, while showing off their beloved Tesla to a good friend, as they would expect to earn
doing their actual day job. But, let's just say for argument's sake, that person did truly value every hour of their time at a rate of $200/hour. So, that would mean, that
person would have to spend < 5 hours convincing their friend to buy a Tesla, in order to get a "good deal" on the $1000 referral payout. Once that person exceeds 5
hours hanging out with their friend, and chatting about Tesla, and probably having a generally good time, then, you could argue, that they will have worked "too hard" for their $1000 referral money.

I would argue, in fact, most people would probably not bill their good friends at an hourly rate equal to what they earn at work, just to hang out and talk about cars...
but let's say they did. So the question is, do you think most people invested less than 5 hours per successful referral, or more??

I would argue that most people spent less than 5 hours per successful referral. I'll talk more on why in a minute.
But first I want to say that don't forget, till now we've been talking about someone who values their leisure time at $200/hour! So even my 5 hour threshold is pretty ridiculous.
As that $200/hour rate drops to like $100/hour, $50/hour, etc...you get the picture. At $50/hour (which is still decent money! More than a Tesla sales person probably makes?),
that's 20 hours invested per referral...

So already, I feel like I've explained why my opinion isn't "meaningless". Do you really think everyone on average spent more than 20 hours of effort per successful referral?
If so, then how many hours are you thinking?

Now, the next part of this argument is, how many opportunities did the average Tesla owner really have to clinch a referral??
If everyone had 100 friends that they had to pitch a sale to, then ok, maybe one could burn through 20 hours just to get one referral.
But, honestly, how many people do you think:
knew very many friends, all of which wanted to buy a new car, AND
all of those friends wanted a car in the price range of a new Tesla, AND
those friends happened to be in the market during the few months of the referral program?

It just seems to me like probably, the vast majority of Tesla owners probably didn't encounter many opportunities to even try for a referral during that time period.
Which is why I don't think most people burned tons of time trying to get referrals. I think probably less than 5 hours invested is a decent bet, but less than 20 hours
sounds like a great bet.

I think, probably there were a very few number of people who put in the most effort, and were social media savvy, or who were well connected somehow to
lots of potential Tesla buyers, who probably saw the most benefit of the last referral program.

This whole referral concept sounds like it would probably be an ok idea for things that don't cost that much, and for things which people consume fairly regularly.
For example, let's say I buy clothes at Shop X a lot. Shop X sends me a promotion that says here, give a $10 coupon off a t-shirt to a friend, and in return you'll
get a $10 coupon. That makes sense to me. One could pretty easily find a friend who needs a shirt. And there's not a lot of barrier to that friend saying hey,
ok, I've never bought a shirt from Shop X before, this $10 is worth me going in and giving it a try.
People don't usually try cars on like shirts. Most of us buy cars every few years, and probably, if you're shopping for a $70k+ car, you will buy the car you really
want, and are probably not going to be fully convinced by a friend to change your mind and "try" a Tesla instead.

Did think that was the biggest flaw of the previous program, because undoubtedly some people simply used whatever random referral link they could find, in which case there was no connection between buyer and referrer and it completely undermined the spirit of the program, and that $1000 to the referrer was wasted in my opinion from Tesla's perspective.

That's sometimes called "freeridership" - and is an unavoidable part of such a program but there are things that can be done to limit this - like limiting the time period, and avoiding predictable repetition.
Ok, so we are in agreement that this was a bad thing about the previous referral program.

Would absolutely have found a way to give that $1000 back to the friend, if I were in a referrer's position.


Wow. This might be helpful: CRITICAL THINKING - Fundamentals: Introduction to Critical Thinking [HD] - YouTube

I know what Critical Thinking is. Before I watched your video, I was like, why on earth do I need Critical Thinking because I would not want to take the $1000 referral credit?
So I watched your video...and...I still can't for the life of me understand what you are getting at?

Actually, you lose this one. Because I have "deductive reasoning" (or whatever it's called) on my side. Because this is about me, I definitively know the answer!
And I know my statement above to be true! I would, in fact, not feel comfortable earning $1000 for hanging out with a buddy, and showing them my car, for
surely less than 20 hours mind you, and then going thank you very much, go spend $70k+ on your car that you have been saving for for probably a really long
time, and I'll pocket this cool thousand dollars.

For clarity, I'm probably the kind of person who this would happen to zero times. Because, I would not go hunting for friends to "sell" to. I don't think I knew a
single person who bought a Tesla in that time period. The chances of a friend actually coming to me and saying hey, I know about this referral program, can
I have your code, seem astronomical to me.

But, let's say it did happen, maybe once. I'd probably find something to buy at the Tesla store that I wanted anyway (i.e. extended warranty or service),
and then pay my friend back. So, I even can explain to you how this would have played out, in the unlikely even that it happened.

Again, I totally do not get what you're even getting at here.



Do think Tesla should have just given the whole $2000 to the buyer, and I bet it would have resulted in more sales!


Bet you are wrong. Some put serious time and money into making sales due to the reward offered. This is generally how capitalism works - usually people like to get recognition for their efforts, most often in the form of a payment.
We each have opinions! I happen to disagree with you.

Do think if Tesla is gonna bring back the referral, they should just bring it back as $2000. This isn't greed. This is me actually wanting what's better for Tesla. As a potential buyer, I know that we know the discount was once $2k. I had a friend who was gonna kick me back the $1000 for the same reason I would have (and I had a spare Virginia code just in case).


Oh boy. I see, you are bummed you missed out. And you feel entitled to both sides of the deal, and now get neither. Why do I suspect your tune would change if you could participate, and found yourself investing any significant effort into selling cars?
Again, I can apply deductive reasoning here to deduce that I'm the one who knows the truth here, and hence you are wrong.
I could have gotten $2000 back then, and I didn't! If they raised the deal to $2000 today, I wouldn't buy a Model S!
I already said I haven't quite decided if the Model S is right for me. I'm a Model X reservation holder and I'm trying to decide if I'll get an X, or an S, or neither.
So I really only spoke up on this thread as a person who wanted to offer my opinion relevant to the thread - NOT to whine about why I can't get the deal I want.

In my mind, yeah, $2k off is the best deal so far. And I'd certainly be willing to wait for an equivalent deal. This is why I think Tesla should just quit playing shell games and admit it's just a discount and match what they did previously.

If they did that, lots of people would simply wait for "the program" and instead of creating a promotional effect, it would quickly become predominantly freeriders.
Who knows, maybe Tesla doesn't need to offer any more than $1200 per Model S, and maybe they will still hit their sales targets.
I fully admit that I don't know. But I said somewhere else that it feels like they needed the program back in the fall, they obviously need some
stimulus now, otherwise they wouldn't have brought back the program. The Model S hasn't changed materially since the fall...
So, doesn't it stand to reason that less stimulus now will result in less sales?

I guess we'll see. But I think something needs to give. Either they need to increase the discount, or the S needs to get materially better (i.e. bigger battery, or other new feature, for the same price).
Again, just an opinion.

I think it would actually end up selling more Teslas.


Tesla is still supply constrained. They're going to produce roughly 90k vehicles this year. Musk has made this all pretty clear.

If they really want to sell a lot more cars they need to have them to sell. When they do they can accelerate showroom opening rate and/or start advertising.

Second guessing what is going on is interesting. Presuming to know better what to do than these really brilliant people, when you don't even know they didn't perfectly accomplish the goals set - not so much.

This is probably the most out of touch thing you've said.
Hmm, what evidence do we have that could possibly indicate that the previous referral program didn't perfectly accomplish its goals??
Well....how about the fact that it's DIFFERENT this time!
Lol. It's not the same program. The biggest thing they changed is the very thing I argued was the biggest problem with the last referral program!
They took away the $1000 money to the referrer. Now the referrer gets zero guaranteed money. Also, I don't think anyone in this thread thus far
has indicated that they think it was a mistake to take away the $1000 from the referrer. To the contrary, folks have only said this is a good change.

So at the end of the day, I'm pretty much saying the same thing. That it's good the referrers don't get paid anymore, and
I happen to think they should give more to the buyer, and I still for the life of me can't explain why I seem to be taking so much heat for that.
 
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