I may be forgetting something but 11.3 (and maybe early 11.4?) had reasonable auto wipers for many, including me. There were some complaints but nothing like what we have today - mostly "too fast" or "not starting soon enough". Might be preferences too. Some dry wipes but very few compared to today.
But...didn't they work better in the past? I never used auto-wipers before they were required. So my frame of reference is limited. But, with the title of this thread being what it is, can't we at least go back to one of two possible solutions:
Possibly they work better now for some and worse for others---they've found the tradeoff curve inherent in this sort of ML solution. One other thing to try---clean your wiper blade with windex and paper. The biggest failure mode is smudged films which cause image degradation very similar to water drops to the cameras on the glass, even though we can see they are entirely different from our viewpoint. The system thinks it's raining hard though it isn't and that causes rapid wiping which makes everything worse. Maybe just time and dirt makes people think the wipers work worse even if the algorithm is the same.
That's not true. The auto wipers used to be significantly better. If they just restored the old software it would be significantly better.
Yes, I do remember it not setting the right speed when raining, but I don’t remember the ridiculous, dry wipes, which honestly have caused two streaks on my windshield that I haven’t been able to get off. I think the only way to remove them will be to take use a drill attachment similar to what I clean my electric stove top with. I park my car outside, and there’s always stuff on my windshield. The dry wipes smear it around. It shortens the life of the wipers too. It’s just ridiculous.
I'm concerned it's just a fluctuation in the neural network training: some people get better, some get worse. It's somewhat better (fewer dry wipes) for me than earlier, though I'm on 2023.27.7. When did the problem start?
Raindrops on a windshield vary by geographic region? Maybe some places doing dry wipes is commonplace?
Local air pollutants cause different splatter patterns?Raindrops on a windshield vary by geographic region? Maybe some places doing dry wipes is commonplace?
I may be missing your point.
That was a long time ago, and with Model S. I don't know if Model 3/Y ever had rain sensors.
The rain sensors are actively illuminated in infrared (so they work in dark night), and directly detect change of index of refraction from water drops---and water specifically and not grime---on the windshield. High quality standard technology.
Changing datasets for retrains will affect other things in unpredictable ways in ML systems. That's the point.Raindrops on a windshield vary by geographic region? Maybe some places doing dry wipes is commonplace?
I may be missing your point.
HW3 has 3 forward cameras. HW4 has 2 forward cameras.
Yes, the auto wipers on my 3 and then S worked fine for at least 2 years, and now they never turn on when it is raining. I assumed this would be fixed quickly, but several updates later they still don't work
Many other people reported they used to be going off too often, so they likely changed a threshold parameter in the model and you get what you see. Always the problem with a fuzzy ML model vs 99.9% accurate rain sensor which works on physics.
"When a drop of rain falls in Shanghai, a Tesla in California wipes its windshield"Raindrops on a windshield vary by geographic region? Maybe some places doing dry wipes is commonplace?
I may be missing your point.
