FSD Beta v11.x

The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.

Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.

Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.

Deep Understanding Tesla FSD Part 1: HydraNet

From Theory to Reality, Analyze the Evolution of Tesla Full Self-Driving

saneryee-studio.medium.com

Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

Twelve Questions about Tesla Autopilot Technologies Exposed at 2021 AI Day

On Aug. 19 2021, Telsa held an AI day , exposing more technologies about Autopilot , from perception, planning, data labeling, simulation…

yuhuang-63908.medium.com

 

[jj3884]

YES, FINALLY (not mine)

I think others reported the same lane centering behavior in 11.3.1, but haven't really seen that in the videos. Hopefully this is consistent. Checked this morning for my update, of course not there. Lol I expect to be one of the last.

Has anyone seen how it treats HOV/Express lanes? Especially ones that are divided, knowing where and when to enter? I live in San Diego County and the I-15 is terrible. Honestly Google Maps isn't great about it either but it doesn't have cameras.

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

didn't need one more round of YT testing.

YouTube testing

 

[LowlyOilBurner]

I usually get these update a couple days after the initial widespread rollout. Maybe Tuesday?

 

[TK211X]

This might explain why you've been held back on the 2022.44 branch, green has found occupancy-network driven Park Assist. So this branch might restore those features to cars without USS. Might be a while until it's merged into the mainstream FSDb branch, though:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637453290245095426

HOT

 

[jimdandy99]

I took delivery of a FSD Model 3, the day the recall update hit. I've been patiently waiting for this update to finally drop. Now that it's rolling out, I'm eagerly checking the app every couple hours to see if I've gotten it yet. I'm really excited to try it out. Getting car that can drive me to and from work every morning is half the reason I got this thing.

 

[D Good]

No luck here. I have USS car but I’m exited to see what they have done for the not-USS folks. Maybe they have achieved the impossible.

 

[D Good]

I took delivery of a FSD Model 3, the day the recall update hit. I've been patiently waiting for this update to finally drop. Now that it's rolling out, I'm eagerly checking the app every couple hours to see if I've gotten it yet. I'm really excited to try it out. Getting car that can drive me to and from work every morning is half the reason I got this thing.

Don’t get too exited. Remember you will still have to periodically put your hands on the wheel. Also FSD beta in general is not that great of a driver.

 

[j0shm1lls]

I took delivery of a FSD Model 3, the day the recall update hit. I've been patiently waiting for this update to finally drop. Now that it's rolling out, I'm eagerly checking the app every couple hours to see if I've gotten it yet. I'm really excited to try it out. Getting car that can drive me to and from work every morning is half the reason I got this thing.

Historically, new cars won't get updates for roughly a month after delivery despite there being newer builds available.

 

[Konicom04]

FSD subscription on HW4.
Hearing that v11 is rolling out, I decided to donate $100 to Tesla.
…and whole lot of noting.

In “two weeks”, right?

I have the same thing. My FSD is still live till 4/3 - but it appears nothing's changed after the update?

 

[jj3884]

No luck here. I have USS car but I’m exited to see what they have done for the not-USS folks. Maybe they have achieved the impossible.

I'm hoping we get similar visualization that was just shown. Fill in the gaps so to speak

 

[Acisplat]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1637484732551245824

Looks like they made a typo, and park assist for non-USS cars is in 11.3.2, but not full autopark

 

[Konicom04]

Im confused . Not all cars get the update?
My display shows 11.1, (2023.2.12), and all appears same as before

 

[FSDtester#1]

I just got fsd beta 11.3.2.
Downloading now... will take the car out for spin to see how the merged stack works on highway!View attachment 919031

Were you an og tester, 100% safety score, or got beta after safety score ended?
Or a youtuber?

 

[JulienW]

With it being a 22.45.x branch that pretty much excludes any new people getting it. Doubt there are many people wanting on Beta and still on a 22.44.x or earlier firmware.

 

[kylinblue]

Im confused . Not all cars get the update?
My display shows 11.1, (2023.2.12), and all appears same as before

Your UI version is 11.1. You are on release build branch not FSD branch.
Tesla named their UI version similar to FSD which is causing a lot of confusion.
For example I'm on software version 2022.44.30.10 (FSD 10.69.25.2) with UI 11
And sorry to inform you that, since your are on a higher branch you will not receive this wave of update. This wave of FSD will be on 2022.45 branch, and you're on 2023.2. I suggest you delay all future updates until FSD catches up to your branch.

 

[Konicom04]

Your UI version is 11.1. You are on release build branch not FSD branch.
Tesla named their UI version similar to FSD which is causing a lot of confusion.
For example I'm on software version 2022.44.30.10 (FSD 10.69.25.2) with UI 11
And sorry to inform you that, since your are on a higher branch you will not receive this wave of update. This wave of FSD will be on 2022.45 branch, and you're on 2023.2. I suggest you delay all future updates until FSD catches up to your branch.

Thanks for the explanation !

That means it could be months i presume, even with me halting the updates ?
That's great - the functionality i paid for at purchase isn't available and no-one informed me of that .

 

[jebinc]

Thanks for the explanation !

That means it could be months i presume, even with me halting the updates ?
That's great - the functionality i paid for at purchase isn't available and no-one informed me of that .

Elon, the Great Charlatan is hard at work!

 

[dachshund]

Thanks for the explanation !

That means it could be months i presume, even with me halting the updates ?
That's great - the functionality i paid for at purchase isn't available and no-one informed me of that .

Correct. Welcome to the club! Probably not months though.

 

[Enright]

With it being a 22.45.x branch that pretty much excludes any new people getting it. Doubt there are many people wanting on Beta and still on a 22.44.x or earlier firmware.

I think all recently delivered (Q1 2023) vehicles are on 22.44.X. For example, I took delivery in Feb, and am on 22.44.200. I think we are stuck on an older branch due to the recall - maybe that means we'll get the update sooner than later?

 

[cowleggies]

No luck yet, just burned my daily update check on 2022.44.30.10. I’m not usually impatient with updates but really hoping this gets pushed wider very soon.