FSD Beta v11.x

Joboo7777 · Oct 19, 2023

mgs333 said:
I don't know what's impressive about this. The car doesn't even seem to slow down until the deer is mostly past the car already.

Having been in this situation myself it’s more about the quick response especially when traveling at high speeds. Looks like two things happened here, a quick deceleration plus quick but slight turn to the right. Both done at same time was enough to avoid the deer.

Hard to appreciate what FSD did here but will say it’s not easy for a human to do without potentially losing control of the vehicle by overturning/over-braking or just not reacting quick enough.

Also should add that a little bit of luck probably played in to this as well..

nikolajz1 · Oct 19, 2023

Just got back from a round trip drive from DC to Toronto on 11.4.4. FSD actually was unexpectedly and surprisingly good, especially on some of the rural roads in PA we were routed too. Only had one instance of darting into a turn lane and no phantom braking incidents. It even handled some rain well. I made sure to throughly clean all the cameras at every super charger stop which I think helped.

Definitely finally got 200 dollars worth of service out of FSD. Made the 9 hour trip super easy to make.

WilliamG · Oct 19, 2023

Twiglett said:
Latest with my commute on 11.4.7.2 - had many more extra commutes this last week.
Got a better idea of why the wipers are so jacked up on these last few builds.
Driving down I35 on a lovely sunny morning, wipers doing the usual wiping the dry windshield, then wiping a few more times to be sure.
The icing on the cake - the display shows "Full Self-Driving may be degraded - Poor weather detected"
There wasn't a single cloud in the sky, no water on the screen, newly cleaned.
No wonder it can't figure out when to wipe.

Same thing happened to me two nights ago. Beautiful evening, wiping like crazy and FSD degraded.

mgs333 · Oct 19, 2023

Joboo7777 said:
Having been in this situation myself it’s more about the quick response especially when traveling at high speeds. Looks like two things happened here, a quick deceleration plus quick but slight turn to the right. Both done at same time was enough to avoid the deer.

Hard to appreciate what FSD did here but will say it’s not easy for a human to do without potentially losing control of the vehicle by overturning/over-braking or just not reacting quick enough.

Also should add that a little bit of luck probably played in to this as well..

I see the car moving left towards the deer after the deer has already passed by. It still seems like even with no action, the deer would have been spared and the move left actually would have made it worse if it moved left earlier.

It seems like the car's responses are not fast enough, as in it initially decided to move left to avoid an obstacle that showed up on the right side but by the time it executed the move, the deer was on the left side.

aronth5 · Oct 19, 2023

Has anyone get a navigation route where you take a turn followed immediately by a U-Turn in the middle of the road? I've had this problem for the past 2+ years regardless of map version. FSD takes the right hand turn, goes 100 yards and stops in the middle of the secondary road with the message the maneuver is not supported.
Just got the NA-2023 map last week. Reported to Tesla after every map update.

Twiglett · Oct 19, 2023

Been reporting bad stuff with 11.4.7.2 recently but this evening the unthinkable happened.
The drive home back through my stress test neighborhood was amazingly good.
I had zero grab the steering wheel interventions, no braking interventions and a total of two pedal presses to get it going.
Other than that is was one a the best that FSD has ever managed. Previous versions didn't even come close.
Amazed

jabloomf1230 · Oct 19, 2023

rlsd said:
I think we will get 11.4.7.4. I don't like the odd number.

I can't figure out what the point of these minor updates is. There don't seem to be any obvious improvements. The same things that were broken before, are still broken.

sleepydoc · Oct 19, 2023

WilliamG said:
Same thing happened to me two nights ago. Beautiful evening, wiping like crazy and FSD degraded.

I think we all agree - the ‘auto’ wiper function is FUBARed In The current release(s).

ArchHamster · Oct 19, 2023

I haven't seen this posted in this thread yet. You guys with wiper problems, have you tried this: Reddit - Dive into anything

Cleaning the windshield under (over?) The camera cluster from the side inside the cabin (requires removal of camera box)?

11.4.7.2 still trying to murder me btw. I'm starting to think I'm on some kind of list.

WilliamG · Oct 19, 2023

ArchHamster said:
I haven't seen this posted in this thread yet. You guys with wiper problems, have you tried this: Reddit - Dive into anything

Cleaning the windshield under (over?) The camera cluster from the side inside the cabin (requires removal of camera box)?

11.4.7.2 still trying to murder me btw. I'm starting to think I'm on some kind of list.

I mean... it's possible that everyone is having the same issue at the same time with a dirty windshield? For what it's worth, I had zero issues with the wipers behaving like they are now before 11.4.7, and the very same day I installed that version, - bam, wipers suck and wiping on a beautiful day. I mean coincidences are possible, but I was ready for it based on what others had said they experienced, and yep - junk. Plus surely the fact that they don't wipe properly when it's actually raining is indicator enough that something is just broken?

kabin · Oct 20, 2023

Teslafi is showing a large number of 11.4.7.3 downloads today.

archae86 · Oct 20, 2023

kabin said:
Teslafi is showing a large number of 11.4.7.3 downloads today.

Yes. My model 3 did the download about 1 a.m. MDT today, and I installed it after I got up. I was very surprised to see it go that wide so soon after first detection.

sleepydoc · Oct 20, 2023

ArchHamster said:
I haven't seen this posted in this thread yet. You guys with wiper problems, have you tried this: Reddit - Dive into anything

Cleaning the windshield under (over?) The camera cluster from the side inside the cabin (requires removal of camera box)?

11.4.7.2 still trying to murder me btw. I'm starting to think I'm on some kind of list.

Maybe it wants to be the hamster pope and views you as competition?

diplomat33 · Oct 20, 2023

https://twitter.com/x/status/1715381318689697960

willow_hiller · Oct 20, 2023

diplomat33 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1715381318689697960

Unfortunately this has been an intentional feature since v11.4.1 was released in May. From the release notes: 2023.7.26 Official Tesla Release Notes - Software Updates

"- Improved ego's assertiveness for crossing pedestrians in cases where ego can easily and safely cross before the pedestrian."

Prior to this version, FSD Beta would yield to all pedestrians in crosswalks. It wasn't how most humans drive (in my experience, most drivers and even most pedestrians expect you to pass, and it can cause surprise to both parties when you stop), but it was the correct thing to do according to the law. But like Cruise, Tesla seems to be prioritizing passenger comfort and convenience over a greater VRU margin of safety.

kabin · Oct 20, 2023

diplomat33 said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1715381318689697960

Pedestrians are tricky. Of course a pedestrian always has the right of way. There was a recent video where FSD ignored a dad walking a child to school across traffic. And another with a mom and baby carriage at an intersection crosswalk. It's a fine line with abundant scenario considerations. High density urban, rural, and everything in between. It's difficult enough for v11 and likely impossible with easy-peasy v12 E2E photon magic.

PACEMD · Oct 20, 2023

PR0FESSOR said:
Allow me to be a bit pedantic… I do it for a living and it is hard to stop…

It’s “brakes” not “breaks”.

Yes, but if your goal is to break phantoms you're in the right place........

PACEMD · Oct 20, 2023

WilliamG said:
I'd taking working wipers over showering for the rest of the year.

Meaning nonworking windshield wipers stink.........

PACEMD · Oct 20, 2023

rlsd said:
I don't have issue with driving in the rain.

Have yo ever tried singing in the rain, with Gene Kelly?

PACEMD · Oct 20, 2023

sleepydoc said:
I think we all agree - the ‘auto’ wiper function is FUBARed In The current release(s).

I'm wid youse, FUBARed beyond all recognition.........

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