We would probably have more control as adaptive AI driving is implemented when it is mature enough.That was an option, but as FSD progresses we will get less and less control. At some point, the Auto Max likely will be the only speed setting.
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We would probably have more control as adaptive AI driving is implemented when it is mature enough.That was an option, but as FSD progresses we will get less and less control. At some point, the Auto Max likely will be the only speed setting.
Doubtful outside of routes. The goal is to make the drives autonomous.We would probably have more control as adaptive AI driving is implemented when it is mature enough.
Yeah, if we get L3 or L4 then we won't have much of any control.Doubtful outside of routes. The goal is to make the drives autonomous.
Yes. That's the point of auto speed.Yeah, if we get L3 or L4 then we won't have much of any control.
Yep, and manual mode too unfortunately (which is exactly the same except for the speed cap being controllable).That's the point of auto speed.
If you're driving manually, that's fine. But someone might want 1 car length or less (because no one will get in front of me, damnit!), and the NN cannot react fast enough with that close of a gap, and will rear end the car in front if they brake hard. Then the driver will say "BUT BUT BUT, the car was driving, it's not my fault!!!".Agreed, but it varies of course. We should be able to tune in how closely we'd like to follow more precisely to an appropriate distance for conditions based on the drivers judgment.
More complaints and people being let down.How about some 12.4.x speculation. So what will 12.4.x bring?
- Will just improve upon City Streets
- Will add some ASS, Banish and parking lots
- Will add a highway stack
- or something else
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never heard of a complaint about tailgating prior to V12.However, there are times when it really does tailgate way too closely.
You can just switch profiles to a profile that has FSD off and use AP/TACC, but it is disabled.Is TAAC no longer available in FSD mode? It's all or nothing now? That would make FSD unusable for me. Too many potholes to avoid on my way to work.
Well, think about it. The more efficient and cooperative autonomous cars become, the more dangerous (to everyone) it becomes to have human drivers in the mix. The shift will be gradual, but the end point I see is humans driving on tracks, pretty much, or at least closed courses of some kind. Out in public, if you're a half-decent driver the autonomous vehicles will have no problem with you (you'd just reduce the efficiency of travel of everyone near you). But what happens when someone gets in the mood for "suicide by autonomous vehicle" and puts themselves into a head-on high-speed collision? Or has a heart attack or whatever. The risk will at some point be deemed too high...Like those insurance big brother apps, monitoring us to give a discount, really forcing us to use to keep our rates reasonable, opt out and they Jack your rates
Imagine a future where insurance discounts our insurance if we use FSD, really forcing us to drive with FSD to keep rates from being jacked
I like FSD, but a future could be coming where we are not allowed to drive and must use FSD
It could happen
I had V11 do it as well.Correct me if I'm wrong, but I have never heard of a complaint about tailgating prior to V12.
You can switch from FSD to TACC while in drive (only by menu, not by stalk anymore) but not from TACC to FSD (without going into Park).Is TAAC no longer available in FSD mode? It's all or nothing now? That would make FSD unusable for me. Too many potholes to avoid on my way to work.
Does v12 even respect this setting? Even with Minimal Lane Changes, it makes frequent unnecessary lane changes. I haven't noticed any differences between the driving profiles either (Chill/Average/Assertive). Even user-requested lane changes have less effect than in v11. Sometimes the car will outright ignore them.Make Minimal Lane Changes setting in the menu the persistent default, not reset defat to no for each drive.
I'm not liking this pure robotaxi direction FSD is heading in. Not everyone wants to make their personal car available to any complete stranger. Do I really want someone hailing my car after a night of drinking and barfing in it?That was an option, but as FSD progresses we will get less and less control. At some point, the Auto Max likely will be the only speed setting.
I agree v12 is very adept at these slow moving roads. It's the opposite of v11, where highways were great but surface street were a problem. Now it's highways that are the problem (highways that don't trigger the v11 switchover).We've been driving 12.3.4 for several days in Sedona. It's been doing super well with the heavy car and tourist traffic. Tons of roundabouts one after the other including several double lane roundabouts. Handles flawlessly in most cases. Only twice out of 20+ have I had to "encourage" entrance by pressing lightly on the accelerator to get it to commit and these were super crowded roundabout situations. Even had someone enter too far to stop and the car stopped and waited while we waved them on - they were blocking our exit.
The car is great at people watching preparing to stop for folks approaching a crosswalk. Lots of pedestrians around here. It even slows on occasion when visibility is poor in case people walk out between parked cars.
Also narrow and twisty two lane roads it does super well, slowing as needed in a turn and great lane keeping and watching other cars. We had a fun twisty road today with close guard rails and lots of oncoming traffic. Handled it super well.
This all is really giving the driver a break in unfamiliar surroundings.
I would just be happy if they fixed some of the basics issues like staying in the same lane when making a left turn or not going straight if the car is in a left turning lane.How about some 12.4.x speculation. So what will 12.4.x bring?
- Will just improve upon City Streets
- Will add some ASS, Banish and parking lots
- Will add a highway stack
- or something else
I’m set to assertive. Seems to have no effect on surface streets though.I agree. What is your FSD profile... chill, average or assertive? I lowered mine to average but haven't tried chill yet. (maybe that will lower the max speed?)