And this is the part that Tesla doesn't do, and why everyone is grumpy with them. We all know there are part shortages, that's unavoidable, it's the way it's being handled that sucks at Tesla.I try to update them the best I can
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And this is the part that Tesla doesn't do, and why everyone is grumpy with them. We all know there are part shortages, that's unavoidable, it's the way it's being handled that sucks at Tesla.I try to update them the best I can
While you're not wrong, I'd wager that most of us here couldn't give a crap about all that and would rather have the $50kAbsolutely excellent points! My exact thoughts. It's actually kind of funny how people are comparing them as if it's just the one lowly motor that makes the 50k difference. In many cases on the street, the Plaid is actually faster than an F1 car, as it doesn't have to spin its wheels; it just goes!
It isn't about 'flexing', it's about the ability to beat the crap out of literally every supercar currently on the streets! If people really wanted to flex, they would buy a flashy supercar, not a family sedan!
Alright folks, I have some interesting updates to share. After getting nowhere with the standard SA route, I activated my network and got some "insider" information. Here's what my contact told me:
please get status of my order too, if you can.1. Tesla has not produced any new S models with 19" in Q2 for "business reasons" (read, higher profit margin on the 21s to close the books as strongly as possible).
2. Red paint has been produced in small percentages relative to other colors, but carbon fiber is in very short supply (I think we already knew this, but still good to hear it confirmed).
3. Until you have a VIN assigned, don't pay any attention to the estimated dates on your account page, it really doesn't mean much. Getting a VIN assigned is much more likely to come with a narrow set of dates (e.g. 17-19 July) by which there's a much higher likelihood of sticking.
4. There is a production planning meeting happening tomorrow, so I'll hopefully have more information to share on Friday as to the status of my order, which is being "prioritized" (whatever this means).
That last one was interesting, and it sounds like SAs across the US are not kept abreast of the outcome of such meetings. My contact should be able to share some of the details late tomorrow.
cc @Drew-MS @2021plaid etc.
I agree wit Omarsulton. I think whining is completely on topic. Talking about drag times, power curves etc. is off topic (I'm NOT suggesting that we not talk about it. It's very interesting)C'mon dude, what's the point of a post like this?
I ordered 5 days before you and currently have a plan delivery date. I have never shown a delivery date for July. The inconsistency is maddening. LR; Blue/Black; 21; FSDSame config for me too... and the day kept pushing by day for last three days. Currently shows
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I have my doubts about (1). We are past EOQ and there are still problems with 19s. I can assure you there is some significant pressure on this issue which would be sufficient to overcome "business reasons". This leads me to believe there is an "actual reason" for not yet delivering 19s.Alright folks, I have some interesting updates to share. After getting nowhere with the standard SA route, I activated my network and got some "insider" information. Here's what my contact told me:
1. Tesla has not produced any new S models with 19" in Q2 for "business reasons" (read, higher profit margin on the 21s to close the books as strongly as possible).
2. Red paint has been produced in small percentages relative to other colors, but carbon fiber is in very short supply (I think we already knew this, but still good to hear it confirmed).
3. Until you have a VIN assigned, don't pay any attention to the estimated dates on your account page, it really doesn't mean much. Getting a VIN assigned is much more likely to come with a narrow set of dates (e.g. 17-19 July) by which there's a much higher likelihood of sticking.
4. There is a production planning meeting happening tomorrow, so I'll hopefully have more information to share on Friday as to the status of my order, which is being "prioritized" (whatever this means).
That last one was interesting, and it sounds like SAs across the US are not kept abreast of the outcome of such meetings. My contact should be able to share some of the details late tomorrow.
cc @Drew-MS @2021plaid etc.
The lack of 19s always smacked of a “business reason” for a variety of reasons. What, they forgot to order them, no. They changed the color of the aero cover at the last minute and needed to order new wheels? No, what were they going to do, trash the tens of thousands of original wheels?Alright folks, I have some interesting updates to share. After getting nowhere with the standard SA route, I activated my network and got some "insider" information. Here's what my contact told me:
1. Tesla has not produced any new S models with 19" in Q2 for "business reasons" (read, higher profit margin on the 21s to close the books as strongly as possible).
2. Red paint has been produced in small percentages relative to other colors, but carbon fiber is in very short supply (I think we already knew this, but still good to hear it confirmed).
3. Until you have a VIN assigned, don't pay any attention to the estimated dates on your account page, it really doesn't mean much. Getting a VIN assigned is much more likely to come with a narrow set of dates (e.g. 17-19 July) by which there's a much higher likelihood of sticking.
4. There is a production planning meeting happening tomorrow, so I'll hopefully have more information to share on Friday as to the status of my order, which is being "prioritized" (whatever this means).
That last one was interesting, and it sounds like SAs across the US are not kept abreast of the outcome of such meetings. My contact should be able to share some of the details late tomorrow.
cc @Drew-MS @2021plaid etc.
Depends on how long you plan to keep your car. My car is at the shop right now getting XPEL Ultimate PPF, Ceramic Coating, 21” arachnids powder coated satin and window tint. To me, its a sunken cost and I will not recover any of it when I sell it in the future. If I am going to keep a car for 5 years or more, I feel its worth it, if I plan to own for less time, then probably not worth the expense.Hey guys. I know this is delivery thread but would love peoples opinion on PPF I am thinking about doing my new Plaid. Is it worth it?
Well we are only a week into Q3, if this persists thru July then I would agree with you that there is another problem. It if they magically start shipping soon, makes you wonder.I have my doubts about (1). We are past EOQ and there are still problems with 19s. I can assure you there is some significant pressure on this issue which would be sufficient to overcome "business reasons". This leads me to believe there is an "actual reason" for not yet delivering 19s.
Of course I could be wrong and it would not be the first time I've been wrong.
It's probably not the rims, but more the higher side wall tires that struggle to keep up with the forces. Just guessing.I have my doubts about (1). We are past EOQ and there are still problems with 19s. I can assure you there is some significant pressure on this issue which would be sufficient to overcome "business reasons". This leads me to believe there is an "actual reason" for not yet delivering 19s.
Of course I could be wrong and it would not be the first time I've been wrong.
This is what I thought about DD and getting a VIN. If you got a VIN that means at least your car existsAlright folks, I have some interesting updates to share. After getting nowhere with the standard SA route, I activated my network and got some "insider" information. Here's what my contact told me:
1. Tesla has not produced any new S models with 19" in Q2 for "business reasons" (read, higher profit margin on the 21s to close the books as strongly as possible).
2. Red paint has been produced in small percentages relative to other colors, but carbon fiber is in very short supply (I think we already knew this, but still good to hear it confirmed).
3. Until you have a VIN assigned, don't pay any attention to the estimated dates on your account page, it really doesn't mean much. Getting a VIN assigned is much more likely to come with a narrow set of dates (e.g. 17-19 July) by which there's a much higher likelihood of sticking.
4. There is a production planning meeting happening tomorrow, so I'll hopefully have more information to share on Friday as to the status of my order, which is being "prioritized" (whatever this means).
That last one was interesting, and it sounds like SAs across the US are not kept abreast of the outcome of such meetings. My contact should be able to share some of the details late tomorrow.
cc @Drew-MS @2021plaid etc.
Thanks for the details and looking forward to a potential update tomorrow evening.Alright folks, I have some interesting updates to share. After getting nowhere with the standard SA route, I activated my network and got some "insider" information. Here's what my contact told me:
1. Tesla has not produced any new S models with 19" in Q2 for "business reasons" (read, higher profit margin on the 21s to close the books as strongly as possible).
2. Red paint has been produced in small percentages relative to other colors, but carbon fiber is in very short supply (I think we already knew this, but still good to hear it confirmed).
3. Until you have a VIN assigned, don't pay any attention to the estimated dates on your account page, it really doesn't mean much. Getting a VIN assigned is much more likely to come with a narrow set of dates (e.g. 17-19 July) by which there's a much higher likelihood of sticking.
4. There is a production planning meeting happening tomorrow, so I'll hopefully have more information to share on Friday as to the status of my order, which is being "prioritized" (whatever this means).
That last one was interesting, and it sounds like SAs across the US are not kept abreast of the outcome of such meetings. My contact should be able to share some of the details late tomorrow.
cc @Drew-MS @2021plaid etc.
Absolutely true for most people. However, there is a certain group of people, to name a few: @AMGF, @TorqueMonster, @Drew-MS, @Aleks0404, etc..., that do give a crap about 'all that'. These members aren't buying the Plaid because it's 'the best of the best' or something like that; instead, they see the value of the marvel of engineering that is the Plaid Model S. I truly believe that the Plaid will be remembered as the car that changed the direction of the auto-industry with its advancements in motor technology. That alone makes it unique, along with the fact that it's the EV that finally smacks down ICE with its superior power curve. Now EVs can make both instant power and torque, AND keep that power up to top speed, w/o having any power loss due to a transmission! Nothing that an ICE can do can even come close! Yes, it's quite a bit more expensive than a LR, but look at what we are talking about here: we're talking about a car that is literally hypercar-beating, for 1/10 of the hypercar price! This is a monumental step in EVs people, and we will remember it!While you're not wrong, I'd wager that most of us here couldn't give a crap about all that and would rather have the $50k
Sounds more annoying than anything, for sureJust got a random call from my SA to "touch base" and let me know I'm "in the home stretch" and the only thing that remains is to wait for a VIN to be assigned which should be "soon". He said my car would be delivered this quarter, so "by September". I appreciated the call but it was basically to give me a bunch of non information and no answers to any of my questions about the delay. I asked why another local guy took delivery in June from an order placed in June and why mine doesn't even have an estimated delivery date from an order way back in Nov (RN1141). He had no answer. Very frustrating... especially when I thought the random call from him was going to be good news about delivery date. The waiting continues....
Oh yeah dude it's like you're offroading over there. Stilled pulled 0.9 G which is pretty
Well said that’s exactly why i am buying the Plaid and not The LR. This is the ultimate ICE beating machine i need to have. Life is short! We forgot to mention @sflgator as wellAbsolutely true for most people. However, there is a certain group of people, to name a few: @AMGF, @TorqueMonster, @Drew-MS, @Aleks0404, etc..., that do give a crap about 'all that'. These members aren't buying the Plaid because it's 'the best of the best' or something like that; instead, they see the value of the marvel of engineering that is the Plaid Model S. I truly believe that the Plaid will be remembered as the car that changed the direction of the auto-industry with its advancements in motor technology. That alone makes it unique, along with the fact that it's the EV that finally smacks down ICE with its superior power curve. Now EVs can make both instant power and torque, AND keep that power up to top speed, w/o having any power loss due to a transmission! Nothing that an ICE can do can even come close! Yes, it's quite a bit more expensive than a LR, but look what we are talking about here: we're talking about a car that is literally hypercar-beating, for 1/10 of the hypercar price! This is a monumental step in EVs, people, and we will remember it!
(Nothing at all against the LR BTW, as I find it both amazing and awesome that the 'base' Model S has gotten this powerful, and this fast.)