Tesla Model 3 in Australia

[paulp]

We need lemon laws in Australia, to cover for cases like this:
Had a SR+ for 7 days, returned it!

Ok the guy had a bad screen experience, not a problem car.
I had a bad screen in my first model S. Tesla replaced it within a week. Actually flew the technician to Adelaide to do it. Although Australian consumer law would protect anyone against this, in my experience tesla have never done anything other than fix any issues as quickly as they can. Indeed I had a small problem fixed this week. I recieved extraordinary warranty service from tesla. Vastly superior to any car company.

 

[Nuclear Fusion]

Ok the guy had a bad screen experience, not a problem car.
I had a bad screen in my first model S. Tesla replaced it within a week. Actually flew the technician to Adelaide to do it. Although Australian consumer law would protect anyone against this, in my experience tesla have never done anything other than fix any issues as quickly as they can. Indeed I had a small problem fixed this week. I recieved extraordinary warranty service from tesla. Vastly superior to any car company.

His second car is worse

 

[Lerxt]

The Australian legislation on what is allowed and not in a car is close to stupidity:
Sydney driver cops ‘ridiculous’ fine
So if a passenger uses a phone to talk to someone it is considered distracting the driver, or if a driver has access to a screen that displays a browser, but it is not distracting if that same driver talks on a handsfree? Or looks at a satellite navigation screen? Or talks to the said passenger in the car, which can be the most distracting of those activities...

Australia has become a nanny state joke. I wonder how this would stand in court. How do the police prove this was distracting to the driver?

 

[Techno-phile]

Do they have a website, email or phone number so I can enquire? I searched chargefox on Google and the only thing that came up was the chargefox DC fast charging network.

I have asked the director of the ChargeFox group of companies if he wants to field queries or if he wishes to delegate somebody to do this. You may have bought your RedEuro adaptor and 3phase pigtails from his company, so you could easily ask them to confirm if they are compatible with the M3.
In meantime here is an extract from the UK Tesla charging site: Can I use an industrial outlet for charging at home?
The Mobile Connector with an industrial adapter can be used to charge single phase at home. The blue industrial adapter rated at 3.7kW (16A) comes standard with the car. For more information, check out the Charging Connectors page.

 

[PJF000]

Do they have a website, email or phone number so I can enquire? I searched chargefox on Google and the only thing that came up was the chargefox DC fast charging network.

About us | JET Charge

 

[turbice]

Anyone know what cables are provided with the model 3?

Do we need to purchase our own type 2 - type 2?

 

[Techno-phile]

Anyone know what cables are provided with the model 3?

Do we need to purchase our own type 2 - type 2?

It looks as if we are getting the 22kW Wall connector plus a 3.7Kw capable Mobile connector. No other cables will be provided - not even Model S/X received free T2 to T2 cables.

 

[sixela]

You should be getting a type 2 to type 2 cable (4m or 7.5m) and a 1 phase UMC with two adapters. Sometimes they run out of Type 2 cables but in that case you get one later.

 

[Chuq]

You should be getting a type 2 to type 2 cable (4m or 7.5m) and a 1 phase UMC with two adapters. Sometimes they run out of Type 2 cables but in that case you get one later.

That certainly never happened with any of the S/X owners I know..

 

[sixela]

What exactly “never happened”? I was, BTW, specifically saying what should come with a model 3 (if you read earlier mails: the S/X come with a UMC capable of three phase charging).

As for the type 2 cable, our EU page specifically said it was delivered with every new vehicle. I briefly managed to get the Australian page about charging connectors and it said the same (before the evil “redirect to your own country” redirector kicked in.)

 

[Chuq]

What exactly “never happened”? I was, BTW, specifically saying what should come with a model 3 (if you read earlier mails: the S/X come with a UMC capable of three phase charging).

Sorry, I meant the type 2 cable. I don’t know anyone who got one included.

 

[sixela]

You’re right — Australians aren't supposed to get that page; once I change country I instead eventually get a differently organised set of pages where it says “A Type 2 cable can be ordered as an aftermarket accessory via your delivery specialist”.

So it's included in Europe but not Australia. Perhaps because ChaDeMo chargers are more popular over there?

 

[turbice]

If we not getting T2-T2. Reckon we should all do a group buy or something? Anyone with connections? Lol

 

[raynewman]

If we not getting T2-T2. Reckon we should all do a group buy or something? Anyone with connections? Lol

62196 Type 2 Connector/Cable 3 Phase 32A Level 2 for Electric Vehicle EV Charging in IEC 62196-2 Cables for Sale

 

[ND100]

You’re right — Australians aren't supposed to get that page; once I change country I instead eventually get a differently organised set of pages where it says “A Type 2 cable can be ordered as an aftermarket accessory via your delivery specialist”.

So it's included in Europe but not Australia. Perhaps because ChaDeMo chargers are more popular over there?

The majority of public AC chargers in Europe are a Type 2 socket. Bringing your own cable is very common, so Tesla supplying a cable makes sense.

Over here most public chargers are either Tesla destination chargers, which are tethered (have their own cable). This is changing with some of the EO public installs going on in Sydney, and a few of the Chargefox units. Some chargers in the ACT also require a cable, but for most Australians buying a Model 3 they're not going to need a Type 2 cable, whereas in Europe it's practically essential for any public charging.

CHAdeMO is not at all popular in Europe.

 

[aegidius]

Afaik a few AC chargers here have a tethered cable, but most need you to BYO. I'll buy if/when I need one, I suppose.

 

[Ashleysteadman]

I’ve never needed a type 2 to type 2 cable and I’ve had my S for 8 months. You might be thinking of a J1772 to type 2 cable like this?:

Type 1 to Type 2 EV Adapter Cable 32A

Most public chargers in Australia have a type 2 plug built in (so no cable or adapter required - just plug into car) or a j1772 plug built in (need a j1772 to type 2 cable to change the plug type) so you don’t need a type 2 to type 2 cable.

 

[dmaunder]

Most public chargers in Australia have a type 2 plug built in (so no cable or adapter required - just plug into car) or a j1772 plug built in (need a j1772 to type 2 cable to change the plug type) so you don’t need a type 2 to type 2 cable.

In Victoria, quite a few Chargefox chargers just have a T2 socket on them, including the one at Forest Hill Chase shopping centre, 1km from home that I hope to use quite a bit, but quite a few others as well, so I bought a T2 to T2 cable. There are also quite a few with J1772 plugs, so I also bought a J1772 female to T2 male adaptor for those.

 

[Munka]

In Victoria, quite a few Chargefox chargers just have a T2 socket on them, including the one at Forest Hill Chase shopping centre, 1km from home that I hope to use quite a bit, but quite a few others as well, so I bought a T2 to T2 cable. There are also quite a few with J1772 plugs, so I also bought a J1772 female to T2 male adaptor for those.

Do they also have CCS2? If they to the CCS2 is native on the model 3 and upgrade and adapter for Model S and X would be a more compelling upgrade, possibly cheaper.

 

[perkz]

Do they also have CCS2? If they to the CCS2 is native on the model 3 and upgrade and adapter for Model S and X would be a more compelling upgrade, possibly cheaper.

They're talking about AC chargers. The top part of the CCS2 plug is a Type 2 socket, and the Model S & X use a modified Type 2 plug, so all those chargers would work anyway