Canada - FSD rollout

[GoldenBasis]

Question for long term users about FSD beta on 2-lane highways - is it limited to 10km/h over speed limit like AP or can the speed be set higher when using FSD Beta? For example Highways such as hwy 7 and 17 in Ontario that have 80 km/h and 90 km/h speed limits respectively.

I will go try it for myself later but planning a trip now and deciding which car to use.

 

[GoldenBasis]

I also have a 99 safety score, but may not have drove that many kms in the past month, is that okay as long as I've driven enough total? Or does it need enough km in the past 1 month window.

I am not sure if anyone knows this with any certainty but I would assume that it is a sliding 30 day window so the mileage would only be counted for the last 30 days. That is also what is shown in app for the distance driven summary under the safety score.

 

[ZooSean]

How many KM requested for safety score to be valid?

 

[sandman1330]

Question for long term users about FSD beta on 2-lane highways - is it limited to 10km/h over speed limit like AP or can the speed be set higher when using FSD Beta? For example Highways such as hwy 7 and 17 in Ontario that have 80 km/h and 90 km/h speed limits respectively.

I will go try it for myself later but planning a trip now and deciding which car to use.

I drive mostly rural highways. It absolutely allows you to exceed +10, which is a good thing because it misses 9/10 speed limit signs. It used to miss them on vanilla autopilot, but it seems much worse now. It never sees the sign. If I couldn't roll it up more than 10 like vanilla autopilot used to prevent, it would be unusable.

However, you should also know, my biggest complaint (and I will be emailing my feedback to the FSD Beta team) is that it treats rural highways as if they are city streets. The upshot is that means it follows WAAAY too close (even in chill with distance set to 7). It follows traffic ahead with less than 2 sec distance, at 110km/h. Way too close for a rural highway. It also hugs the centerline too much for my liking. Vanilla autopilot used to keep you centered in the lane, which was already a bit too far left as most people tend to hug the right line due to heavy truck traffic on the highways. FSDb goes the other way, and hugs the darn centerline, very uncomfortable at highway speed with semi truck traffic coming the other way.

 

[sandman1330]

LOL. I'm on 2022.20.8, so no, I'm behind in all regards - dunno why as I've had "Advanced" on since the get-go. I must've PO'ed someone at the top at some point.

Still sucks.

That's weird, that's the same version I was on when I got it last weekend.

 

[sandman1330]

How many KM requested for safety score to be valid?

The only requirement I am aware of is 100kms must be on autopilot.

I only had to endure safety score for a couple weeks (300kms driven with SS), though I was reading the tea leaves and suspected 69.2 would induct more people, so I timed my opting in. It worked out nicely.

 

[TrevTremaine]

I had an update stuck like this before. Opened a service ticket, mobile service. The rep fixed it remotely before then and removed the ticket after.

Well, lo and behold I got an update. I'm now at 2022.20.9.

Still no invite for the FSD beta.

Still sucks.

 

[xG35]

Well, lo and behold I got an update. I'm now at 2022.20.9.

Still no invite for the FSD beta.

Still sucks.

I waited 3 years.

 

[TrevTremaine]

I waited 3 years.

Technically, I've waited for 6+ years, I've only had the opportunity to "apply" for the beta since 2020 due to it only being open to the US previously as well as hardware/software requirements that needed updating. Yes, it's improved since I've first got AutoPilot, but am surprised that I've not had the opportunity to test the FSD beta out at all since then.

 

[ZooSean]

Musk cheating in Twitter again. He said anyone purchased FSD and safety score above 80 will receive FSD beta by yesterday..damn

 

[MP3Mike]

Musk cheating in Twitter again. He said anyone purchased FSD and safety score above 80 will receive FSD beta by yesterday..damn

In at least one tweet he added the and driven 100 miles condition. But it seems he left off some other details:

1. The 100 miles has to be in the last 30 days.
2. The 100 miles has to be on AP.
3. Your car has to have the correct hardware. (HW3, MCU2, and RCCB cameras)
4. Your car has to have a "compatible" firmware. (i.e. not larger than 2022.20.x.)

Are there any other restrictions that we know of?

 

[TrevTremaine]

In at least one tweet he added the and driven 100 miles condition. But it seems he left off some other details:

1. The 100 miles has to be in the last 30 days.
2. The 100 miles has to be on AP.
3. Your car has to have the correct hardware. (HW3, MCU2, and RCCB cameras)
4. Your car has to have a "compatible" firmware. (i.e. not larger than 2022.20.x.)

Are there any other restrictions that we know of?

None that I would comment on in a public forum at this point...

 

[Grrrreg]

Both my cars updated to 2022.20.9 today. Crossing my fingers.

 

[ZooSean]

In at least one tweet he added the and driven 100 miles condition. But it seems he left off some other details:

1. The 100 miles has to be in the last 30 days.
2. The 100 miles has to be on AP.
3. Your car has to have the correct hardware. (HW3, MCU2, and RCCB cameras)
4. Your car has to have a "compatible" firmware. (i.e. not larger than 2022.20.x.)

Are there any other restrictions that we know of?

Musk is still cheating, I meet all those requirements..May be only people paid 10000+ CAD for FSD will get beta? Damn...

 

[Grrrreg]

Got it on my model Y. Still waiting on my model 3.

 

[Grrrreg]

Got it on both cars now. Yay.

 

[pb2000]

Re-enrolled 10 days ago, ~600km, 93 safety score, >150km on autopilot - still nada. Ironically, I've lost a decent chunk of my safety score because of dumb things autopilot has done.

 

[MP3Mike]

I've lost a decent chunk of my safety score because of dumb things autopilot has done.

No. Any time driven on AP does not negatively impact your safety score.

 

[pb2000]

Is there a 10 second buffer after disconnect? Often times I disconnect when I see something ahead that autopilot hasn't picked up on yet and then get dinged for aggressive braking or following too close. In a lot of those situations I probably don't need to disconnect, but it just makes me extremely uneasy when autopilot maintains speed right up until the last second and requires even more aggressive braking (and wasting perfectly good regen). Also, I really don't want to risk a $70,000 car that no amount of insurance money would be able to replace anytime soon.

 

[sandman1330]

Is there a 10 second buffer after disconnect? Often times I disconnect when I see something ahead that autopilot hasn't picked up on yet and then get dinged for aggressive braking or following too close. In a lot of those situations I probably don't need to disconnect, but it just makes me extremely uneasy when autopilot maintains speed right up until the last second and requires even more aggressive braking (and wasting perfectly good regen). Also, I really don't want to risk a $70,000 car that no amount of insurance money would be able to replace anytime soon.

There's a 3 second "grace period," so as long as you swerve / brake / have FCW within 3 secs of disengaging, you're good.

In cases like yours, I would usually either let autopilot get as close as I dared then react quickly, or if possible I'd disconnect AP waaaay early and come in nice and slow.

This is a really good write-up and helped me alot:

Guide To A Perfect Safety Score for the FSD Beta Queue, or Tesla Insurance reasons. (Whether you like it or not)

There is no TLDR; when it comes to this. there is no one piece of advice. If you're interested, please give my experience and advice a read. I've seen many, many, many, people complain about the safety score program. and most of the time, it's due to just not understanding the process required...

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