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The next big milestone for FSD is 11. It is a significant upgrade and fundamental changes to several parts of the FSD stack including totally new way to train the perception NN.

From AI day and Lex Fridman interview we have a good sense of what might be included.

- Object permanence both temporal and spatial
- Moving from “bag of points” to objects in NN
- Creating a 3D vector representation of the environment all in NN
- Planner optimization using NN / Monte Carlo Tree Search (MCTS)
- Change from processed images to “photon count” / raw image
- Change from single image perception to surround video
- Merging of city, highway and parking lot stacks a.k.a. Single Stack

Lex Fridman Interview of Elon. Starting with FSD related topics.


Here is a detailed explanation of Beta 11 in "layman's language" by James Douma, interview done after Lex Podcast.


Here is the AI Day explanation by in 4 parts.


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Here is a useful blog post asking a few questions to Tesla about AI day. The useful part comes in comparison of Tesla's methods with Waymo and others (detailed papers linked).

 
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My guess is that Tesla Bull is not an employee but rather a "friend" of a Tesla employee. There are a few people here who have from time to time claimed to have received inside information from a Tesla employee. The same is true on Twitter. At least Tesla Bull has what appears to be video confirmation.
Supposedly he's in Michigan, though, so I'm not sure how he'd be an employee or have direct contact with one.
 
After driving a few weeks on 11.3 I can say it's clearly better than 69 was. That's actually a feat for the programmers - they managed to rewrite the code and improve it at the same time without a huge number of bugs.

Blinkers are improved but still an issue.
Lane selection is improved but still needs work.
Highway driving works pretty well but exits are unreliable. in particular, cloverleaf exits are almost always missed.
Blinking red stoplights are still very hit and miss.
Blinking yellow lights likewise but better than before.
Turns on yield (right sweep turns at traffic lights, etc) Still need work - FSD will almost always stop, even when the light is actually green and it has the right of way. Often times it flat out refuses to proceed.

I recently drove from Grandforks, ND back to Minneapolis completely on AP/FSD. The only time I took over was at the end of the legs when we were pulling into parking lots. In general I'm finding more intervention-free drives and the interventions are more minor.
 
Had a new experience yesterday on 11.3.6 (city driving, chill). Was approaching an intersection near a fire signal, which has a Keep Clear section in front of the fire station. Cars were backed up to the Keep Clear, so I was curious how Beta would handle it. The light turned green ahead, but by the time I arrived at the back end of the Keep Clear, the car at the other end was just beginning to move. Most human drivers would drive through the Keep Clear, anticipating traffic is flowing. Beta slammed on the brakes to stop at the line, as technically the car ahead hadn't moved up yet.

I can see where Beta was thinking about it, and it's good to see the addition of logic to handle Keep Clear sections. Next step is to work on anticipation around it. If the light ahead is green and traffic is flowing ahead, no need to stop.
 
Had a new experience yesterday on 11.3.6 (city driving, chill). Was approaching an intersection near a fire signal, which has a Keep Clear section in front of the fire station
I had a similar experience the other day, but it was a railroad crossing. FSD Beta stopped at the stop line before the crossing. (Technically it could have fit on the other side of the crossing behind the lead car, but it is very tight, and I normally wouldn't cross either unless I was the lead vehicle.)
 
Looks like TeslaBull is still on 11.4 (latest YouTube). So if 11.4.1 is so promising at least let the employees get it Elon. 🤔 🤣

Also would love to see if there is change of it being on 23.12.x. Maybe the TeslaBull (still an enigma that this employee seems to have Elon's blessing to post) will get it before the weekend and we can see the Notes.


It is curious. If an employee he/she might be a test driver given all the apparent drive time he/she seems to have during the day. It's probably easier to police one employee versus the masses. Hopefully this one doesn't ruffle feathers and become disgruntled similar to ai addict.
 
10.69 to 11.3 was a huge improvement, from videos and personal experience. I would say it cut down my disengagments by 60-80%.

That's pretty good but FSD percent improvements always sound spectacular but the status quo remains for me.

The difference might be that I don't do much highway driving. I still see lots of issues including overreacting/needless braking for distant cross flow traffic, overreacting/braking for perpendicular traffic approaching roadway, dangerously entering traffic flow, near misses, missing stop signs and red lights, no solution for roundabouts, and just general indecisiveness. I don't need to mention the dumb stuff like changing lanes in the middle of intersections or entering turn lanes at the last second, dawdling at stop signs when no traffic is anywhere in sight, ...

For me 11.3.6 remains mostly unusable in city driving so I disable when approaching red lights, intersections, merging traffic - pretty much where ever there's an elevated accident risk.
 
For me 11.3.6 remains mostly unusable in city driving so I disable when approaching red lights, intersections, merging traffic - pretty much where ever there's an elevated accident risk.
As I keep writing - there is a large learning curve. Those who don't get over the curve won't find FSD useable.

Those who do can even use it for Uber and passengers have to look for various clues to see if the driver is driving or FSD.