FSD Beta v11.x

EVRider-FL · Feb 22, 2023

Hayseed_MS said:
I read it is 2022.45.5

Ok, so if Tesla releases that version, those of us already on FSD Beta (2022.44.30.10 or older) can get it, but anyone else who installed one of the 2023.x builds will have to wait for a newer FSD Beta build.

DarkForest · Feb 22, 2023

kriskros91 said:
After single stack is released to the masses what is the next area that people will be clamoring for? Parking lot refinements, adding U turns and complex maneuvers, and ASS will be high on my list for 2023.

My highest priority is getting some ASS. If it could work from much further away (think length of a Walmart parking lot), that would be amazing. If it was L3 (as in so good, Tesla takes liability), I’d buy another Tesla.

As a mom of a 7 year old, it would be a godsend.

AlanSubie4Life · Feb 22, 2023

EVNow said:
Funny thing is - FSDb in current form is what I was expecting when we got it first some 15 months back.

For me as well.

GlmnAlyAirCar · Feb 22, 2023

DarkForest said:
My highest priority is getting some ASS.

I'm not even going to touch this lol

scottf200 · Feb 22, 2023

JulienW said:
... Seems they all are from the same car and have the same steering wheel.

Matias said:
Probably a planned leak.

And they are doing it from a clearly distinguishable car with a customized steering wheel ('white' on the top/bottom). Co-workers would know who it was so they must not be afraid of being outed.

JulienW · Feb 22, 2023

Matias said:
Probably a planned leak.

Driving 85MPH and SUPER poor quality using one of their hands to hold the camera? Not much chance of that.

EVNow · Feb 22, 2023

Matias said:
Probably a planned leak.

"planned" leak is when they send the release to Omar.

ps :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628437859354165248

azred · Feb 22, 2023

kriskros91 said:
Maybe the major Tesla YouTube influencers will get it around Investor Day.

After single stack is released to the masses what is the next area that people will be clamoring for? Parking lot refinements, adding U turns and complex maneuvers, and ASS will be high on my list for 2023. After that I think we won't get sweeping changes. Just more and more small refinements and bug fixes.

The guy posting videos now is really cutting into the future income of the influencers. How sad for them.

JulienW · Feb 22, 2023

EVNow said:
"planned" leak is when they send the release to Omar.....

100% correct. Musk wants 3ed party people like Chuck Cook, DirtyTesla and WholeMars "leaking" the first videos using quality production, narration and a devoted viewer base. Not some unknown ACTUAL Tesla employee doing a piss poor amateur job.

emmz0r · Feb 22, 2023

Mardak said:
Looks like FSD Beta 11.3 stays at the current side to the left or right of a wide merging lane instead of NoA's desire to center:
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At least compared to NoA's visualization, the blue path doesn't have sharp angles for these "want to get to center" situations as well as actually reflecting the path to exit instead of a generic "exiting to the right" animation.

This is all I want

Please let it trickle down to us mere peasants outside US

DanCar said:
Visualizations

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627875772764659713

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627929072448987136

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627862910033887232

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627908563501981697

https://twitter.com/x/status/1627830598357385216
https://twitter.com/DirtyTesLa/status/1627732994713694208

Do these people steal eachother's videos?

AlanSubie4Life · Feb 22, 2023

emmz0r said:
This is all I want Please let it trickle down to us mere peasants outside US

But it does not seem to show this. Unless I missed something!

You can clearly see it moved to the right, even though it was a very short opportunity (it would have moved more if there had been more time).

Just look at the lane line positions relative to the car. No question it moved to the right. And if you watch the video it is even more obvious. Note that shifts like this are much more noticeable in the car than they are on video (even though in this case it is clearly evident on video!).

And the first (other) example shows the car staying to the right on an entrance which it has no problem doing even now.

kabin · Feb 22, 2023

EVNow said:
"planned" leak is when they send the release to Omar.

ps :

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628437859354165248

The epitome of a drama queen and no, I'm not talking about Gandhi.

kabin · Feb 22, 2023

Matias said:
Probably a planned leak.

Maybe so otherwise it would have been nipped in the bud. Blurred images act as a camouflage. And somehow the vehicle allows a handheld phone/camera.

kabin · Feb 22, 2023

AlanSubie4Life said:
But it does not seem to show this. Unless I missed something!

You can clearly see it moved to the right, even though it was a very short opportunity (it would have moved more if there had been more time).

Just look at the lane line positions relative to the car. No question it moved to the right. And if you watch the video it is even more obvious. Note that shifts like this are much more noticeable in the car than they are on video (even though in this case it is clearly evident on video!).

And the first (other) example shows the car staying to the right on an entrance which it has no problem doing even now.
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Yep, even in off-ramp turns it dithers back and forth within the lane.

emmz0r · Feb 22, 2023

AlanSubie4Life said:
But it does not seem to show this. Unless I missed something!

You can clearly see it moved to the right, even though it was a very short opportunity (it would have moved more if there had been more time).

Just look at the lane line positions relative to the car. No question it moved to the right. And if you watch the video it is even more obvious. Note that shifts like this are much more noticeable in the car than they are on video (even though in this case it is clearly evident on video!).

And the first (other) example shows the car staying to the right on an entrance which it has no problem doing even now.
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kabin said:
Yep, even in off-ramp turns it dithers back and forth within the lane.

GOD DAMNIT that's one of the main things I expected to get fixed in the "single stack".

Mardak · Feb 22, 2023

AlanSubie4Life said:
But it does not seem to show this. Unless I missed something!

Here's some legacy stack NoA visualizations (10.69.25.2) of similar situations from the left as well as from the right like the 11.3 examples:

The rainbow road actually reveals what Autopilot thinks is the current center of the lane, so you can see the initial lane confusion / curviness that is actually "imagined" from how it was trained with heuristic workarounds that then suddenly jerks to the new center. FSD Beta 11.x at these merging situations for highways or city streets has much better perception and understanding of what lines actually exist with merge regions allowing for more natural and smoother driver.

AlanSubie4Life · Feb 22, 2023

Mardak said:
FSD Beta 11.x at these merging situations for highways or city streets has much better perception and understanding of what lines actually exist with merge regions allowing for more natural and smoother driver.

Sure, it might! But we’d need to see some examples of it handling these situations. So far the example above shows it centering in the lane in a situation where the lane is perceived to widen (very briefly).

All I know is that 10.69 just centers in the perceived lane on surface streets (which is incorrect of course). That much is clear. Have multiple repeatable test cases (posted the videos previously) where no change in behavior has been observed with the incrementals.

Will be exciting to see if they improve the capability before wider release, in any case.

It may already be smoother than regular AP, I have no idea - but the question is whether it will be correct, or whether it will just do the wrong thing more smoothly.

sleepydoc · Feb 22, 2023

DarkForest said:
My highest priority is getting some ASS. If it could work from much further away (think length of a Walmart parking lot), that would be amazing. If it was L3 (as in so good, Tesla takes liability), I’d buy another Tesla.

As a mom of a 7 year old, it would be a godsend.

Ok…I don’t think that means what I think it means, so what does it mean?

Mardak · Feb 22, 2023

AlanSubie4Life said:
It seems pretty natural to dump NOA temporarily

Looks like another drop is following distance (1-7 or 2-7 for Tesla Vision) quick change with right scrollwheel is replaced by FSD Beta's 3 driving profiles:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1628519736953962496

Although all 3 here seem to show "Minimal Lane Changes" so maybe that's a separate setting from the full Autopilot settings view? Or the UI isn't finished and is temporary anyway? I suppose if permanent, it avoids the issue of restoring "1 following distance" setting.

scottf200 · Feb 22, 2023

sleepydoc said:
Ok…I don’t think that means what I think it means, so what does it mean?

I had know recollection either and generally follow this stuff well.
Everyone seems to like acronyms because they sound cool

or it takes so so long to type words.
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