FSD Beta v11.x

Pdubs · Dec 19, 2023

sleepydoc said:
I keep seeing people stressing about 'burning their daily check.' First, it's not clear whether that makes any difference at all in how fast you get the update. Beyond that, is it really that big of a deal that you have to wait an extra day? Yeah, there may be some new features coming but I've been driving my car as it is for the last few months and even the wipers haven't make it underivable.

me too. it is silly. I show current as of Dec. 3. no daily for me. but when I was getting daily checks, I'd still get the update after "I burned it", so checking the software sub menu has no effect on the push process, imo. just more nonsense to do drama over

mtndrew1 · Dec 19, 2023

Tidal is completely borked for me on 44.30.1 and I hope that’s one thing they fixed in these later builds.

KArnold · Dec 19, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
Tidal is completely borked for me on 44.30.1 and I hope that’s one thing they fixed in these later builds.

I'm not familiar with the tech term "borked".

What symptoms do you see?

I still use Tidal via Bluetooth so I can shuffle songs.

FSDtester#1 · Dec 19, 2023

KArnold said:
I'm not familiar with the tech term "borked". What symptoms do you see?

I still use Tidal via Bluetooth so I can shuffle songs.

"Borked" is what I won't get from the wife after playing a USB drive full of downloaded light shows from the interweb at 11.

mtndrew1 · Dec 19, 2023

KArnold said:
I'm not familiar with the tech term "borked". What symptoms do you see?

I still use Tidal via Bluetooth so I can shuffle songs.

1) It’s broken. Tapping on songs in playlists doesn’t work properly and just reverts to an unrelated track.

2) Consider using the built-in app when they get it sorted, the sound quality is considerably better than via Bluetooth.

WilliamG · Dec 19, 2023

Frankb70 said:
WilliamG, yes agree but when you are given assurances in writing one would believe that it would be delivered.

In general, yes. Not with Tesla. Not even slightly with Tesla.

jebinc said:
Well, maybe.... I bought a Plaid with Radar and USS, and they physically disconnected my radar - and without my consent (during a SC visit for another matter). Next, USS may be disabled and replaced with "High Fidelity Parking".... So, even if we buy the car with features (based on what it has at that point), is no guarantee that they will remain...

That’s also true, but at least you did have those features at one point. If Tesla dares remove my USS in software, I will lose it. They can then fix the holes in my bumper. Actually, they can just buy back my car.

Twiglett · Dec 19, 2023

mtndrew1 said:
Tidal is completely borked for me on 44.30.1 and I hope that’s one thing they fixed in these later builds.

Initially I was wondering which FSD feature Tidal was - then I figured with >14k posts and >720 pages, this thread can cover anything it wants

Personally I'm hoping I don't get moved from 11.4.8.1 to 11.4.9, but also wondering what comes next.
I'm pretty sure they'll find a way to re-break what they fixed with the wipers

jebinc · Dec 19, 2023

WilliamG said:
In general, yes. Not with Tesla. Not even slightly with Tesla.

That’s also true, but at least you did have those features at one point. If Tesla dares remove my USS in software, I will lose it. They can then fix the holes in my bumper. Actually, they can just buy back my car.

You should prepare grabbing your ankles now, as I'm 99% confident (at some point) USS will be disabled and you will be told TeslaVision replaces.... wait for (sh) it...

sleepydoc · Dec 19, 2023

swedge said:
What if Tesla drivers drive more miles per year than Ram drivers? I mean besides infinitely lower fuel cost. Oh, right, lower accidents per driver.

Then there is selection bias: which of Tesla drivers use Lending Tree?

I like what the 2nd article said: "with a name like RAM Stellantis is just asking for trouble!"

aataskin said:
Or simply that Tesla's automatic collision prevention systems (those relying on vision only) are not adequate enough - especially once you control for the fact that it's a much more fun car to drive than a Ram. Honestly I wouldn't read much into this. You can't compare accident rate between a sports car and a truck.

My belief is that cars aren't accident prone, drivers are. My sister has totaled 3 cars in the last 10 years. All of them Priuses.

sleepydoc · Dec 19, 2023

Pdubs said:
Noticed that virtually no-one with 11.4.8.1 is getting any update at all. @jebinc told me he had an inside track that said it's because we're all getting v12.

Virtually no one or literally no one? I'm on 11.4.8.1 and literally have not gotten an update yet.

WilliamG · Dec 19, 2023

sleepydoc said:
Virtually no one or literally no one? I'm on 11.4.8.1 and literally have not gotten an update yet.

I literally haven’t gotten the update. And literally everyone else who hasn’t gotten the update hasn’t gotten the update yet, either.

sleepydoc · Dec 19, 2023

WilliamG said:
Golden rule of buying a Tesla is never, ever, ever buy one with the promise of X or Y feature coming soon. Only ever buy one knowing what it comes with today.

This advice applies to every company, not just Tesla. It also applies when dealing with kids. And insurance companies.

fasteddie7 · Dec 19, 2023

WilliamG said:
Golden rule of buying a Tesla is never, ever, ever buy one with the promise of X or Y feature coming soon. Only ever buy one knowing what it comes with today.

To be fair, many ordered based of the website still showing these features and were surprised by a message in their app that the configuration had changed to vision only, and even though you could back out and lose the deposit, most were too far involved to do so.

WilliamG · Dec 19, 2023

fasteddie7 said:
To be fair, many ordered based of the website still showing these features and were surprised by a message in their app that the configuration had changed to vision only, and even though you could back out and lose the deposit, most were too far involved to do so.

Yep. And that’s yet another barrel of crap Tesla shovels at you. If they did that earlier in the process more people would back out. Fewer sales aren’t good for business.

mgs333 · Dec 19, 2023

Who else is still stuck on 11.4.7.3/2023.27.7?

swedge · Dec 19, 2023

sleepydoc said:
Virtually no one or literally no one? I'm on 11.4.8.1 and literally have not gotten an update yet.

In TeslaFi, of the 5,300 cars on 2023.44.30.x, 400 came from 2023.27.x. These include 11.4.8.x and a few 11.7.3, basically the fed beta testers.

So, I'd say that literally, virtually no one.

No 2023.27's at all have yet installed 2023.44.30.4, the latest and largest batches yet.

After a promising start with .2, testers stopped getting updates altogether. So we are still "special", at least for now.

swedge · Dec 19, 2023

mgs333 said:
Who else is still stuck on 11.4.7.3/2023.27.7?

It looks like we all are, at least so far.

Twiglett · Dec 19, 2023

mgs333 said:
Who else is still stuck on 11.4.7.3/2023.27.7?

I wouldn’t call it stuck until we find what is in 11.4.9

JulienW · Dec 19, 2023

Twiglett said:
I wouldn’t call it stuck until we find what is in 11.4.9

23.27.7 is VERY much stuck in the past. There is more to Tesla than FSD Beta.

Twiglett · Dec 19, 2023

JulienW said:
23.27.7 is VERY much stuck in the past. There is more to Tesla than FSD Beta.

This is the FSD thread isn’t it?
So that’s one version back from the most recent limited release version and the most common for the limited release.
So far, no 11.4.7.x or 8.x car has moved to 2023.44.30.4/11.4.9

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