*scrolling through 5 new pages looking for something material*
NOPE.
I dunno. This article says Tesla cut 6 seconds off the time between 2019 and 2020. Hop Onboard the 1100-HP Tesla Model S Plaid as it Sets a Laguna Seca Lap Record
I think they can do it, but it seems, at some point, it is no longer about the drivetrain and all about the tires--even on the Plaid+, there is a disclaimer that you need proper wheels and tires to get maximum performance. From a design and engineering perspective, it is an interesting topic. When Elon introduced the "D" he had an interesting spiel on the fact they needed to go AWD because the car was traction limited from 0-30 with RWD (or something like that).
No thanks - I don't want to have a dongle hanging off in front of my face.
I test drove M3P recently and also considered buying one. I don't think MS is coming out until end of the year, possibly even next year at this rate.
Speak for yourself buddy, I'm full of hot air.
You like the looks of the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo?
Regardless, it has < 250 mi. max battery range and yes, it's very pricey...it's a P car. Anyhow, there are many EV options these days and many more coming later this year but after driving a $92k 2019 Jaguar I-Pace HSE EV (as my first EV), I jumped ship (after admittedly enjoying driving the I-Pace EV very much for 2 years/36k mi.) and ordered a Tesla MS Plaid. I waited 9 months to take delivery of my Jaguar I-Pace EV, so waiting a few months for my MS Plaid, although disappointing, is okay with me I suppose.
Let's see after I take delivery and drive it for 2-3 years or whatever. Just my thoughts on the subject.
I like wagons. The Cross Turismo is the only ev wagon(ish) vehicle in the US of which I’m aware. I was considering an I-Pace. But the range and infotainment center made me hesitate.You like the looks of the Porsche Taycan Cross Turismo?
Perhaps Tesla is just making sure the vehicle meets and/or exceeds it's own specs and standards? Or perhaps it's the retooling of the assembly line? Or maybe the chip shortage? Or maybe it's the yoke steering wheel? Who knows? Who cares at this point; it almost doesn't matter. YES, there is NO COMMUNICATION and almost no honesty with Tesla (and EVERYONE is kept in the dark with zero information)...agreed that Tesla's way of doing business is absolutely HORRIBLE, but after test driving the old version of the MS Performance (with ~ 800 HP/TQ) and seeing all the high-tech stuff (and that was the old s/w version), I'm sold on the vehicle and the Plaid supposedly has 1,020 HP/TQ and 350-390 mi. battery range!
Okay, at least there's 1 person in the United States that likes "wagons."
I think the P Taycan CT will be a flop in the US and will do well in Europe...they like their "shooting brakes" over there. Anyhow, like I said the Porsche Taycan (and Audi E-Tron GT) have way less range, less power & performance, less tech and for A LOT more $$...but like you said, it's not in the budget for you anyhow. There are other decent EVs out already and many more coming later this year and next but thus far, the only one I see as a real competitor to the Tesla MS and MS Plaid is the Lucid Air GT and Dream Ed (but those will arrive in 3rd & 4th QTRs 2021...maybe). Then there's the fugly new MB EQS...awesome tech and great range > 400 mi. but God-awful ugly, terrible performance by today's EV standards and expensive. Imagine how much MB will get for their upcoming AMG versions, and I bet their AMG versions will still have < 800 HP/TQ and won't be able to keep up with the MS Plaid and Plaid +. Don't get me wrong, I love P cars (had one...a Porsche Macan Turbo) and an AMG in the past...love them, but it still seems that Tesla is way ahead of almost all other auto mfgr's with EV technology (except maybe Lucid).
or threw in the towel ‘aerodyne’
Trust me, no one on planet earth is impressed with the way Tesla communicates. Must be a good reason why we’re all still here. As soon as you put your foot down on that accelerator pedal the first time
... you will forget about all this nonsense. It sure is an annoying wait though.
Interesting article and thanks for posting. It is amazing how little validation goes into the data. For the MS LR, they use the pricing for the refreshed model but the specs from the pre-refresh model.
In that comparison, it shows the LR and Plaid will have a 100KW battery. Has that been confirmed ? I didn’t realize Tesla provided the battery size.
No. Not confirmed and Tesla doesn’t provide battery size any longer. As with most “publications” it’s based on heresay, forums, Reddit, etc with no actual substantive review of facts.
Yes, I had a Lucid Air GT on order and at least with the $7500 EV credit, the Lucid Air was a few thousand less than my MS Plaid. But, I thought, ahem, that I would be able to take delivery on the MS Plaid way before I could take delivery on the lucid Air GT so I canceled my order on the Lucid Air GT and they refunded my deposit.
