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Trading Standards & Park Assist
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So.....you disagreed with me when I said I didn't think that the Vision based Park Assist was as good as the USS version....but you agree that Vision based Park Assist isn't as good as the USS version.
You are making yourself look very silly here....time for one of those promised 3 week beaks I feel.
There is something called selective amnesia.
And also looking to close this thread again - digging your own grave!
No. I disagreed with you that the “evidence” you’re invoking being a few random YouTube videos supposedly shows that the vision system will never become as good as USS.So.....you disagreed with me when I said I didn't think that the Vision based Park Assist was as good as the USS version....but you agree that Vision based Park Assist isn't as good as the USS version.
You are making yourself look very silly here....time for one of those promised 3 week beaks I feel.
I’m not making myself look silly at all. You’re the one getting bent out of shape because I clicked the disagree button on your post, enjoy being miserable about things you can’t control. Being that negative must be exhausting.
I’m already woke, thanks.
3 years with USS and 3 months without, hasn’t been a big deal because I‘m wearing my big boy pants and have better things to do that whine and be miserable about things on t’internet.
Y’all do love a pity party though so don’t let me stop you.
422,875 new Tesla owners in Q1 disagree.
Record production, record deliveries.
Most people don’t give a flying fig, unlike the 20 or so misery-guts on this forum who‘ve generated hundreds of comments complaining about it.
Most buyers see the reviews for the low running cost and awesome performance and ignore the FUDsters griping about petty nonsense like USS, especially because most new buyers never even experienced the old version and appreciate the new things they get like the triple rear facing cameras that all you grumpy-pants have become accustomed to.
Pretty sure they had to get this out quickly to avoid impacting sales more. Most people won't know that it's not great at this point but just that the car now has this capability again.
You'd think if they cannot solve this, there's no chance of FSD ever working with the same hardware either. USS won't be much use at speed so they've got to correctly pick out objects at all speeds.
Wonder if HW5 will have lidar once it's cheap enough
You'd think if they cannot solve this, there's no chance of FSD ever working with the same hardware either. USS won't be much use at speed so they've got to correctly pick out objects at all speeds.
Wonder if HW5 will have lidar once it's cheap enough
That might stand up if all the wailing about demand problems in January had any basis in fact which todays numbers disprove.Pretty sure they had to get this out quickly to avoid impacting sales more. Most people won't know that it's not great at this point but just that the car now has this capability again.
You'd think if they cannot solve this, there's no chance of FSD ever working with the same hardware either. USS won't be much use at speed so they've got to correctly pick out objects at all speeds.
Wonder if HW5 will have lidar once it's cheap enough
FSD beta is already working well on HW3. HW4 is just an evolution and won’t be necessary. LiDAR will never be in a Tesla because it adds nothing of value that you can’t already do with cameras.
Zilla91
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And record discounts and incentives to boost sales. But don't let facts get in the way.
Is in keeping this thread in line about parking. Look at the visualisations, things just around all the time. Look at the videos Tesla published on their Occupancy Networks, stuff jiggles around there also. Lidar wouldn't have that issue but of course Lidar cannot work on its own as it cannot read. Colour of a traffic light for instance.
Lidar would I think work great for parking, in wet weather and also on the dark. FSD Beta in the US is impressive of course but it also has limitations.
It appears people only look at this forum after they've bought the car.
Fair play to the folks taking Tesla to court etc, but too many have given Tesla the cash because the salesman said a replacement was coming soon. Is caveat emptor no longer a thing?
Prices are still well above where they were before inflation started impacting the supply chain. But don’t let facts get in the way. Lazy argument. Try harder.
Having paid attention to the FSD development the lines a year ago on that stack were also “jiggly” and after some further development the algorithm was refined to make them smoother and steadier as confidence builds that they’re in the right place. See earlier comment referencing Tesla’s statement about releasing a series of updates. This is v1.0.
LiDAR is an optical tool, as are cameras. It’d offer nothing for parking that would be an improvement. Laser based systems would still suffer the same rain occlusion of the camera sensor as the Tesla Vision solution and are power hungry and expensive.
An Apple style IR dot projection would also have the exact same issues if there was was a drop of rain on the lens. Tesla have also already demonstrated they can generate the exact same kind of point cloud data out of the camera bitstream which is why they dropped the jiggly dumb low resolution radar system which does the same thing but worse, as do ultrasonic sensors.
I’ve had condensation in my B pillar cameras virtually every day of autumn and winter for the last 3 years
According to Tesla, it’s within spec. It must be part of FSD
No matter how high the resolution of cameras that are fitted in the pillars, they will be blinded.
I know that in the US, beta has had good reviews but makes no difference here. Anything we have or get short term is the leftovers.
I have USS and they work ok to a large extent. Currently, my rear camera is dirty for much of the time because I live in an agricultural area. Even with USS, auto-park is a dog’s breakfast. most of the time it can’t even identify a spot.
Tesla’s software engineers must be crying in their keyboards trying to get vision to be a jack of all trades.
I’ve said many times on this forum that Tesla’s are a good car with potential to be a great car. That potential gets sidelined every time as the focus is always on FSD and cost reduction.
According to Tesla, it’s within spec. It must be part of FSD
No matter how high the resolution of cameras that are fitted in the pillars, they will be blinded.
I know that in the US, beta has had good reviews but makes no difference here. Anything we have or get short term is the leftovers.
I have USS and they work ok to a large extent. Currently, my rear camera is dirty for much of the time because I live in an agricultural area. Even with USS, auto-park is a dog’s breakfast. most of the time it can’t even identify a spot.
Tesla’s software engineers must be crying in their keyboards trying to get vision to be a jack of all trades.
I’ve said many times on this forum that Tesla’s are a good car with potential to be a great car. That potential gets sidelined every time as the focus is always on FSD and cost reduction.
It does make me laugh how the argument was “why haven’t they released a replacement!!!?!??!!” and now has flipped to “the replacement isn’t good enough!!!!!” with the same level of vitriol.
That‘d make sense if you believe they’re taking things like radar and USS away purely for cost reasons vs. the fact they realised that the features they tried to make work with them don’t and so are moving to a better vision based system instead.
As you admit yourself Autopark is crap and always has been. Even with radar and USS installed. Same for summon etc. The guy who posted a pic the other week of his bumper with USS and a massive scrape in the paint from smacking in to something proves they’re not infallible either. The whole point of moving to vision only is that they see a path to making it great, which they don’t see with the multi sensor approach. Unfortunately some people like to look for the bad in everything.
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