No, they promised to have ENHANCED autopilot completed by December 2016, not parity alone. When I ordered in 2016, "enhanced" autopilot was supposedly COMPLETING FINAL VALIDATION. Which is basically the complete opposite of realizing in December 2016 that they hadn't even started yet. I don't know how much more fraudulent it can get.
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Autopilot 2.0 is dangerous
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No, they promised to have ENHANCED autopilot completed by December 2016, not parity alone. When I ordered in 2016, "enhanced" autopilot was supposedly COMPLETING FINAL VALIDATION. Which is basically the complete opposite of realizing in December 2016 that they hadn't even started yet. I don't know how much more fraudulent it can get.
even if not a traffic jam, simply having another car to follow helps AP quite it bit. try that. but turns of a certain tight radius will require manual control. although the AP turn radius that it can handle is getting tighter and tighter as time goes by.
Electricfan
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I'm glad you said that, it confirms I'm not confused about it as that's what I recall, and I damn near pulled the trigger in Dec. Remember they were also threatening to remove free supercharging at that time (later extended it some), so I was checking on loans and figuring out how I could trade. But in the end I decided to wait-and-see. Tesla is definitely a car you should only buy if the current-as-its-coming-off-the-line-right-now vehicle does everything you want.
I really wonder how is this going to work when we have all the model 3s on the road.
Are excuses such as "you can't use this in this condition or that condition" going to fly in courts if there is an accident?
Are excuses such as "you can't use this in this condition or that condition" going to fly in courts if there is an accident?
Assuming the car detects conditions in which it cannot operate and stops, there will be no accidents.
NerdUno
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You obviously aren't driving an AP2 vehicle. When it feels the urge to wander, the car literally lurches into another lane whether there are vehicles or obstacles there or not... Then it turns off autopilot.
Well, I wouldn't say they hadn't started in December 2016... they did have the limited distribution limited version out sometime around that, though of course nowhere near AP1 parity, let alone anywhere near EAP... so I guess Tesla started work on EAP somewhere during 2016 when it became obvious the plan to include EyeQ3 would not happen...
Indeed, what was promised was a singular update that would do all this...
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Mark Z
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Drove in the same lane on the 91 westbound by Green River Road just after 9 PM on 9/30. No sudden unexpected lane change. Version 2017-38 seems improved, yet has a few anomalies if the road markings are confusing. I was pleased with the results and IMHO feel as if AP2 has returned to normal. Only a few weaves noted at one spot.
I wonder if Tesla uses the direction we are applying pressure to the steering wheel as input? Seemed to skip trying the offramp if I was applying a slight downward pressure on the left side of the wheel.
One major positive comment. I can trust AP2 fully during my drive on some turns that I couldn't trust AP1 back in 2016. Hopefully AP1 has the same turning improvements that AP2 definitely has.
I wonder if Tesla uses the direction we are applying pressure to the steering wheel as input? Seemed to skip trying the offramp if I was applying a slight downward pressure on the left side of the wheel.
One major positive comment. I can trust AP2 fully during my drive on some turns that I couldn't trust AP1 back in 2016. Hopefully AP1 has the same turning improvements that AP2 definitely has.
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Yea, you are right, this should have been one single update. Now it says the rollout has begun and they will add more features as validation is completed.Well, I wouldn't say they hadn't started in December 2016... they did have the limited distribution limited version out sometime around that, though of course nowhere near AP1 parity, let alone anywhere near EAP... so I guess Tesla started work on EAP somewhere during 2016 when it became obvious the plan to include EyeQ3 would not happen...
Indeed, what was promised was a singular update that would do all this...
But is doesn't say which features are available already and which aren't. People not looking at forums, or talking to other AP2 owners, might expect way more than what they actually get. I'm actually surprised that there aren't more people complaining.
And then when you call it in, they investigate and say "Driver took control of the car, Autopilot shutoff. Functioning as designed"
NerdUno
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Should say: Driver took control of the car [before it drove into ditch]. Autopilot shutoff. Functioning as designed.
That makes the first and last sentences much more accurate as to where we stand today with AP2.
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