FSD Beta v11.x

Mardak · Dec 15, 2023

MP3Mike said:
I think that it is illegal to install a version of software that has been recalled

Just a (disappointing) data point of one… I just switched to the Software screen with 2023.38.9, and it was doing the long think as opposed to immediate "up to date," so I was getting excited for the 2023.44.30.1 / 11.4.9 now rolling out only to find out ~60 seconds later that it's 2023.44.1 for this vehicle.

mgs333 · Dec 15, 2023

Mardak said:
Just a (disappointing) data point of one… I just switched to the Software screen with 2023.38.9, and it was doing the long think as opposed to immediate "up to date," so I was getting excited for the 2023.44.30.1 / 11.4.9 now rolling out only to find out ~60 seconds later that it's 2023.44.1 for this vehicle.

At least you got an update, I just checked and I'm still "up to date" with my 2023.27.7 (FSDb 11.4.7.3)

Supcom · Dec 15, 2023

swedge said:
Check me on this. I am looking at the early installs of 2023.44.30.1 and the previous versions being updated.

The numbers are growing rapidly, but so far 49 are updates to 2023.44.1 (11.4.4) which was a recent production release, not FSD beta testers.

Another 13 are from 2023.27.12 (11.4.8.1) which was the latest FSD beta tester release.

The release notes say that 2023.44.30.1 includes FSD 11.4.9

So both "normal" users and Beta testers are getting the same release.

Does this mean the test program is ending? Or am I missing something?

Tesla is merging the two branches for this release. Maybe they will split things again later, but I suspect we are all in this together now.

scottf200 · Dec 15, 2023

Version 2023.44.30.1 8dcef40 Detail
Full Self Driving Beta Version 11.4.9

Appears to be a convergence.

Iain · Dec 15, 2023

mgs333 said:
At least you got an update, I just checked and I'm still "up to date" with my 2023.27.7 (FSDb 11.4.7.3)

Yep, same version as me. I’m also “up to date”

Todd Burch · Dec 15, 2023

Mardak said:
Just a (disappointing) data point of one… I just switched to the Software screen with 2023.38.9, and it was doing the long think as opposed to immediate "up to date," so I was getting excited for the 2023.44.30.1 / 11.4.9 now rolling out only to find out ~60 seconds later that it's 2023.44.1 for this vehicle.

Received the same on my Sep build Model X LR.

jebinc · Dec 15, 2023

swedge said:
Check me on this. I am looking at the early installs of 2023.44.30.1 and the previous versions being updated.

The numbers are growing rapidly, but so far 49 are updates to 2023.44.1 (11.4.4) which was a recent production release, not FSD beta testers.

Another 13 are from 2023.27.12 (11.4.8.1) which was the latest FSD beta tester release.

The release notes say that 2023.44.30.1 includes FSD 11.4.9

So both "normal" users and Beta testers are getting the same release.

Does this mean the test program is ending? Or am I missing something?

One. Can. Only. Hope.

kabin · Dec 15, 2023

No reports of recent employee test drives on FSD 11.4.9. And 11.4.9 release notes sound very similar to 11.4.8.

Maybe they rolled 11.4.8.1 forward for the 'just-ship-it-santa-baby-for-the-holiday-update' win?

LowlyOilBurner · Dec 15, 2023

So, those of us on 11.4.4 are perpetually on this *sugar* until whenever? Sweet.

Tronguy · Dec 15, 2023

LowlyOilBurner said:
So, those of us on 11.4.4 are perpetually on this *sugar* until whenever? Sweet.

Nope. Cars with 11.4.4 are being updated to 11.4.9 as part of the 2023.44.30.1 release as we speak. And it appears to be for both HW3 and HW4 cars.

BBTX · Dec 15, 2023

The open question now is really about the new 3d park assist: it seems so far to be only going to USS-less cars, but it may or may not also be the case that they're not gonna roll that out to MCU2 Atom cars (for lack of GPU perf for the visualization). I have one of the last few of those (model y, model year 2022, delivered dec 2021 with MCU2 + USS). This early it's hard to say, as I think most of the MCU3 cars lacked USS anyways.

Mr. Michael · Dec 15, 2023

My question is will it stop the dry wiping?

Mardak · Dec 15, 2023

TeslaFi 2023.44.30.1 / FSD Beta 11.4.9 stats show with just over 200 installs, only 10 have gone to HW4 -- all Model Ys. At least one of those HW4 came from 2023.27.7 / 11.4.7.3, which is a good sign as nobody with HW4 received 2023.27.12 / 11.4.8.1, but nothing yet for S/X/3 HW4. On the flip side, the rest of the installs have only been to HW3 vehicles (including retrofit), so that excludes HW2.5 or older but also seems to not have gone to S/X Refresh either yet.

I wonder if there's something special about 11.4.9 for this rollout pattern?

D Good · Dec 15, 2023

BBTX said:
The open question now is really about the new 3d park assist: it seems so far to be only going to USS-less cars, but it may or may not also be the case that they're not gonna roll that out to MCU2 Atom cars (for lack of GPU perf for the visualization). I have one of the last few of those (model y, model year 2022, delivered dec 2021 with MCU2 + USS). This early it's hard to say, as I think most of the MCU3 cars lacked USS anyways.

How does the atom have the gpu for FSD visuals (heck even MCU1 does), but not the vision park assist? Kinda pissed about this in my December 2020 built 3 (USS, Atom).
Admittedly, the atom is really starting to show its age. Watching YouTube or anything in the theater is godawful. Don’t even get me started on the browser (what is strange though is that relatively gpu intensive games like beach buggy run pretty fine. Unoptimized code I guess may be the culprit). I really am starting to question why they were selling cars in 2021 with this chip. There simply needs to be a retrofit offered. I realize there are compatibility issues, but a custom chip would certainly fit.

eli_ · Dec 16, 2023

They probably just can't reconcile USS and vision park assist together, you'd have proximity lines from USS that don't really line up with what's coming out of the occupancy network, it would be a confusing mess.

Twiglett · Dec 16, 2023

Mr. Michael said:
My question is will it stop the dry wiping?

11.4.8.1 seemed to clear up the dry wipes on my car, sadly it didn’t really fix it when it’s raining.
They’ve fixed them before, only to screw them up on the next release though, so who can tell

tivoboy · Dec 16, 2023

eli_ said:
They probably just can't reconcile USS and vision park assist together, you'd have proximity lines from USS that don't really line up with what's coming out of the occupancy network, it would be a confusing mess.

I thought pretty much USS had been just disabled via software in the past 1-2 years for cars originally equipped with USS

DrGriz · Dec 16, 2023

tivoboy said:
I thought pretty much USS had been just disabled via software in the past 1-2 years for cars originally equipped with USS

Working fine for me.

kabin · Dec 16, 2023

Mr. Michael said:
My question is will it stop the dry wiping?

We'll see but I recall seeing a tweet with a dry wipe apology while saying the plan was for an early next year fix. I assume that means v12.

My guess would be the issue is tied to optimistic short cuts with front-end vision photon sampling/processing.

jebinc · Dec 16, 2023

DrGriz said:
Working fine for me.

Same. I prefer the USS, actually....

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