Canada - FSD rollout

[Proppilot]

Ah man,
So is there any point in staying in the program at this point in our region.
I’ll wait another few days, and maybe opt out for now.
With Karpathy on sebatical, could be a while.

Was reading your quote from yesterday about maybe opting out . That would have been a bad strategy! What is your SS ?

 

[antchan]

Installed beta an hour ago. I hope all of us will get it.
EDIT: 100 Safety score with 550 km

 

[Danzel]

Installed beta an hour ago. I hope all of us will get it.

Safety Score?

 

[antchan]

Safety Score?

100 with 550 km

 

[M109Rider]

Are you both 100% ? Its great that more and more are happening. I am 99. Nada

I’m at 100%
About 1,200km’s

 

[LiPo247]

So... about 2 hours ago, I'm leaving work and talking to the wife, and she tells me there's an update downloading. I ask what version and she very slowly tells me 2022........4.............5............20.
Installed it an hour later when I got home.

Usually 100, dropped to 99 now and then during the last week. 3500-4000km.

 

[pcons]

Seems like a lot of those getting it are at 100. There was mention of a 99 in the first batch, wondering if that's changed.

 

[jayk1]

Yikes. I should've opted out and opted back in. I drive 700-800km/week and my SS is 99% because I didn't know how to play this game the first few days. I guess this wait is my punishment for playing as intended...

 

[edgecrusher]

Also at 99. Nothing yet. Hoping for a batch tonight?

 

[Zas]

Congrats to everyone who got it!! ...all that painful safe driving paid off after all.

It seems us early adaptors that bought Tesla's back in 2017 will not get it for some time...need camera upgrades, but no timeline is estimated when I asked the local service centre....but I am Happy for you guys, ... (wiping away tears)

 

[Zas]

Here is a counterintuitive but (I believe) true thing: you would have been better off just parking your car and not driving it again until tomorrow. I figured this out when I had a forward collision warning (plus hard braking event) that brought my daily score down to 31 (!) for that one day. The reason for this is that your daily score's contribution to your overall score is weighted by number of kilometres driven, but -- and this is the crucial part -- the FCW percentage is capped at a max of 63.3.

So your 50 km of perfect driving, by increasing the number of kilometres you drove today, increased today's weight in the overall total score. The same 50 perfect kilometres tomorrow would have added weight to a day when you have a 100 score; instead, they added weight to your current day, which is probably sitting at 94 if you had no other adverse scoring events.

The reason the 63.3 cap is important is that you only get the benefit of that cap if you drive very little on that day. To take my example, on my 31 score day, I drove 8 km and had one FCW, which works out to an FCW score of 125 per 1,000 km. Since it was capped at 63.3, it had less than half the impact that it "deserved" in the formula. By scoring 100 on many more kilometers the next day, I reduced the damage to my overall score.

The lesson here is that if you have a bad day, but its badness is limited by the caps build into the formula (see the FAQ for the caps applicable to each factor), it seems that you are better off just parking your car for the day and adding good kilometres tomorrow rather than trying to fix it today.

All that said, I'm sitting in Toronto at 99 on 1,715 km and getting very tired of thinking about this stuff.

Just sharing for those of you still in the safety score system, ...

I can confirm if you get a forward collision warning with low kms, and get a low daily score, you should drive as much as you can that day to get your score back up. I drove 116 km, got the score back up from 41 to 97 for the day, ..my overall score still dropped from 100 to 99..but today I drove just 30 km at 100, and now my overall score went back up to 100....

it's just good to know this for those still in 'the game" as there is a lot of different thinking...

 

[ecarfan]

Road centering on roads with two lanes and no lines to separate same direction driving lanes. Very awkward.

That is a difficult scenario for FSD. I think many humans would tend to drift around as well. Road markings need to be improved for our autonomous driving future!

 

[M109Rider]

My Safety score is still active though.
That makes me nervous. I’m in the beta now. Why is the safety score still calculating. ?
I had to turn out of a scenario in FSD, and it dinged me with an aggressive turn.

 

[M109Rider]

Only had one run so far. Might try again tonight after a meeting I can’t get out of. Figures. Just get the beta and stuck in meetings.
Very cool though.

 

[Proppilot]

To counter my aggressive turning ding today, I drove a bunch of slow figure 8s before going home and got the score back to 100 for the day. Drive off your debts !

 

[ACPark]

1800 km before I got the DL

 

[Danzel]

My Safety score is still active though.
That makes me nervous. I’m in the beta now. Why is the safety score still calculating. ?
I had to turn out of a scenario in FSD, and it dinged me with an aggressive turn.

What? You’ve downloaded the beta and Safety Score is still active?? That’s crazy!! Why would that be?

 

[yourhero]

Just sharing for those of you still in the safety score system, ...

I can confirm if you get a forward collision warning with low kms, and get a low daily score, you should drive as much as you can that day to get your score back up. I drove 116 km, got the score back up from 41 to 97 for the day, ..my overall score still dropped from 100 to 99..but today I drove just 30 km at 100, and now my overall score went back up to 100....

it's just good to know this for those still in 'the game" as there is a lot of different thinking...

Apologies, but this is in fact the opposite of the advice I gave. If you get a forward collision warning on a low-km day (so low that your FCW penalty is capped at 63.3), you should park your car, not drive it again that day, and get in lots of clean kilometres the next day.

Remember that days are weighted by kilometres driven. Counterintuitively, a low-km 41 day may have less negative impact on your overall score than a high-km 97 day. Waiting until tomorrow to have a high-km 100 day will do the most to fix the problem. Think of it this way: if by waiting one day you can add 116 level-100 kilometres to your average, isn't that better than adding 116 level-97 kilometres to your average today?

If you want to prove this to yourself, you can play around with one of those safety score calculators you can find on the web.

 

[M109Rider]

What? You’ve downloaded the beta and Safety Score is still active?? That’s crazy!! Why would that be?

good question. I definitely have the beta. Used it once already. More tonight hopefully.
Safery Score is still active though. Still recording. ?
If I go below 100% do they take it away again.

 

[stanley7175]

i am at 99 and nothing yet.