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Unless it’s changed they are correct. Your AP miles don’t help your score.Also, I'm not so sure about driving on A/P not counting toward your score. Can anyone else verify?
Out of curiosity - any tricks to get a better score, so I have a chance of getting into the BETA - for something I (we) bought over 2 years ago?
I am in SoCal - and I drive in the carpool lane, so anytime I need to get out of the carpool lane and over to an exit - I get slammed with all sorts of "unsafe following" and "forward collision warnings". Safe driver - never had an accident - just SoCal heavy traffic freeways!
I am sitting at a 79 right now.
Matt
Also, I'm not so sure about driving on A/P not counting toward your score. Can anyone else verify?
+1 this. To put it another way, your daily score is determined from your driving behavior with Autopilot OFF. But to calculate your average score over the last 30 days, it will multiply each daily score by the number of miles driven that day, BOTH ON AND OFF Autopilot. So if you drive 300 miles one day, with 99% of it on the highway with NoA, your daily score will be based on the 3 miles OFF of AutoPilot, but that day's score will be weighted with 300 miles in your overall average. This is what was killing me before I learned to use the reset trick (which is no longer available). Once I realized this calculation, I got my score quickly to 99 and got the FSD Beta within days (back in November).If you use AP only for the 90% easiest miles of your drive, then disengage for the tricky parts and get dinged for all kinds of stuff, your score can be pretty bad, because you lacked all the good examples of braking/turning/following from those AP miles....
+1 this. To put it another way, your daily score is determined from your driving behavior with Autopilot OFF. But to calculate your average score over the last 30 days, it will multiply each daily score by the number of miles driven that day, BOTH ON AND OFF Autopilot. So if you drive 300 miles one day, with 99% of it on the highway with NoA, your daily score will be based on the 3 miles OFF of AutoPilot, but that day's score will be weighted with 300 miles in your overall average. This is what was killing me before I learned to use the reset trick (which is no longer available). Once I realized this calculation, I got my score quickly to 99 and got the FSD Beta within days (back in November).
BTW, when I said this was "killing" me, I meant my average score was 96 or 97, which I realize a lot of folks wouldn't consider that low. But back then it was 100 or nothing for the first several weeks, then 99 or nothing.
You can be assured that you will get Autosteer on City Streets when it's out of beta and ready to release to FSD subscribers and buyers. The safety score is only for Tesla Insurance and to help Tesla determine whom to invite into the FSD Beta program (should they need further testers).Seems like I am pretty much screwed then as all my driving is in heavy congestion - no way around that. I would love to just get what I paid for here at some point - I hope that it always won't be predicated on the safety score.
Thanks for all the discussion and ideas to my question!
Matt
In the last couple of releases, they are taking a week or two before rolling it out to all beta users.Is there a delay in sending this our to more Beta users? I dont see many new reports beyond the normal OG group. I am in the queue for the "new new" beta users...so was hoping the rollout of what seems like a great release would speed up some.
This is so far is following the MO of the last several Betas. It usually takes a week to 10 days before we see the next subversion and a wider rollout.Is there a delay in sending this our to more Beta users? I dont see many new reports beyond the normal OG group. I am in the queue for the "new new" beta users...so was hoping the rollout of what seems like a great release would speed up some.
Is there a list of improvements anyone has posted ? In the videos I just see comments like "more confident", "smoother".The other updates seemed like their overall improvements was just barely noticeable. So far, it looks like 10.12 is definitely a clear improvement over 10.11. It'd be nice if all future updates showed the same level of improvements.
Yeah, your driving situation means it will be difficult to get a good safety score. If this helps, try to look at it from Tesla's standpoint. Their perspective is that your driving situation is not one that will be good for testing beta software. People want to get into the FSD beta program so they can get the new software but at this point, Tesla's goal is to have a good cohort of beta testers that will give good data and not be at risk for accidents. Even though it may seem like it, it's in no way punitive.Seems like I am pretty much screwed then as all my driving is in heavy congestion - no way around that. I would love to just get what I paid for here at some point - I hope that it always won't be predicated on the safety score.
Thanks for all the discussion and ideas to my question!
Matt
Back when Safety Score first came out, the rules stated that any event generated that would negatively effect your SS would not do so if you were on AP at the time the event occurred. Miles accrued on AP DID count, but no potentially score damaging event would reduce your SS while using it.Also, I'm not so sure about driving on A/P not counting toward your score. Can anyone else verify?
I haven't seen anything beyond the release notes. Specifically, I haven't seen anything regarding blinkers and lane selection. In a couple of the videos I did see some of the random blinker action. I'm hoping that doesn't mean the problems still persist.Is there a list of improvements anyone has posted ? In the videos I just see comments like "more confident", "smoother".
OK, this explains why my score got so hammered on a 750+ mile drive in one day. I only had a 1,000 miles on the car when I started. Most was on A/P, but I got dinged a few times getting on and off the interstate. I'm having a hard time recovering my score from it since, as you explained, that day was weighted so heavily.+1 this. To put it another way, your daily score is determined from your driving behavior with Autopilot OFF. But to calculate your average score over the last 30 days, it will multiply each daily score by the number of miles driven that day, BOTH ON AND OFF Autopilot. So if you drive 300 miles one day, with 99% of it on the highway with NoA, your daily score will be based on the 3 miles OFF of AutoPilot, but that day's score will be weighted with 300 miles in your overall average. This is what was killing me before I learned to use the reset trick (which is no longer available). Once I realized this calculation, I got my score quickly to 99 and got the FSD Beta within days (back in November).
BTW, when I said this was "killing" me, I meant my average score was 96 or 97, which I realize a lot of folks wouldn't consider that low. But back then it was 100 or nothing for the first several weeks, then 99 or nothing.
I got the Beta 10/26/21 and have Tesla insurance so have been using the SS for 8 months with a 99 average. Zero changes in the SS metrics as far as I can tell. Getting used to it takes a bit, but I no longer feel my driving style has been cramped or limited. It has changed the way I drive but mostly that involves either using AP or watching how closely I follow, and anticipating situations that could cause hard braking. I punch the acceleration quite often without penalty.Back when Safety Score first came out, the rules stated that any event generated that would negatively effect your SS would not do so if you were on AP at the time the event occurred. Miles accrued on AP DID count, but no potentially score damaging event would reduce your SS while using it.
I used AP for the vast majority of the miles I put on during that time. I got a 100 SS and was in the first batch of SS beta testers.
I don't know if the program has been changed since then or not, unfortunately, so I can only tell you how things used to be. : /
Yeah, I wouldn't take those kinds of insults. I'd start yelling back........Hey, stupid, don't call me Jack, no one has ever helped me off a horse!Or dip your head with sunglasses on. (Like you’re looking over a pair of reading glasses). It gets all sorts of annoyed with that. I think it believes you’re looking down and since it can’t see your eyes it goes “wake up jack”. My names not even jack.
Yeah, but what if you're old and can't see none too good? ASKING FOR A FRIEND.........Cool - it is also associated with the elderly with poor eyesight, so you don't want to be thrown into that group either.