FSD Beta v11.x

Supcom · Aug 28, 2023

kpanda17 said:
11.3.6 with sunglasses nag not bad
11.4.4 with sunglasses nags more now

Elon had responded positively to a suggestion by Whole Mars to eliminate nags for those with more than 10K miles on FSDb. Maybe Black Tesla's experience is the start of something like this? He appears to be in the OG group. I may need to watch a few other OG youtubers to see if any of them are getting no nags.

I've got a lot of miles on FSDb, so maybe...?

jabloomf1230 · Aug 28, 2023

tivoboy said:
There is no way they removed the nag, if anything the nagging should be increasing due to more upcoming feedback from NHTSA or DOT. MAYBE they are using alternate sensors or interpreting them differently?

The nag should be removed for sunny weather usage of limited access highways.

uscbucsfan · Aug 28, 2023

Supcom said:
Elon had responded positively to a suggestion by Whole Mars to eliminate nags for those with more than 10K miles on FSDb. Maybe Black Tesla's experience is the start of something like this? He appears to be in the OG group. I may need to watch a few other OG youtubers to see if any of them are getting no nags.

I've got a lot of miles on FSDb, so maybe...?

Chuck Cook still has nags. I do as well. I have WAY over 10k miles on FSD B.

Rocinante777 · Aug 28, 2023

JulienW said:
...and I bet you don't live in high rise the middle of Dallas or Houston like I live in the middle of Atlanta. Much different prospective and there are not police on ever corner "looking" for Stop sign runners in large metro areas.View attachment 968698

By my "neighborhood", I mean a Dallas suburb. But I drive all over the DFW area. Yes, I see a few people behave like those in the video, but most don't. Rolling stops, as in almost-but-not-quite, are the norm. People blazing through without slowing down at all or just slightly tapping the brake are outliers.

To be clear, there are rarely cops present and paying attention. But about once a year or so, one will camp on a stop sign near my house and watch for this.

Edit: You are correct in your edit--I was talking about people in the video. Sorry for the confusion.

lascavarian · Aug 28, 2023

Supcom said:
Elon had responded positively to a suggestion by Whole Mars to eliminate nags for those with more than 10K miles on FSDb. Maybe Black Tesla's experience is the start of something like this? He appears to be in the OG group. I may need to watch a few other OG youtubers to see if any of them are getting no nags.

I've got a lot of miles on FSDb, so maybe...?

Attention confirmation should be particularly present on YouTubers since they act as influencers and teach people responsible behavior. YMMV

Supcom · Aug 28, 2023

uscbucsfan said:
Chuck Cook still has nags. I do as well. I have WAY over 10k miles on FSD B.

Sad news.

EVNow · Aug 28, 2023

uscbucsfan said:
Chuck Cook still has nags. I do as well. I have WAY over 10k miles on FSD B.

I'm still on 4.4 ... but the number of nags has gone down quite a bit compared to earlier release esp. if you are looking straight ahead. If I'm looking at the screen or sideways, I get nags.

My guess is the nag frequency will be determined by internal camera.

Dewg · Aug 28, 2023

EVNow said:
I'm still on 4.4 ... but the number of nags has gone down quite a bit compared to earlier release esp. if you are looking straight ahead. If I'm looking at the screen or sideways, I get nags.

My guess is the nag frequency will be determined by internal camera.

And speed. At 30mph, I get a nag every 2 mins or so. At 80mph, I get nags at about 20-30 seconds.

Disclaimer: I rarely get nags as I hold the wheel at all times with a little torque. The numbers above were a specific test to see how frequently I was getting nags on 11.4.4

EVNow · Aug 28, 2023

Dewg said:
And speed. At 30mph, I get a nag every 2 mins or so. At 80mph, I get nags at about 20-30 seconds.

Disclaimer: I rarely get nags as I hold the wheel at all times with a little torque. The numbers above were a specific test to see how frequently I was getting nags on 11.4.4

Interestingly I don't notice that. On freeways I hardly get any nags - same with city. Ofcourse I always hold the wheel ... have they gotten better at figuring out if we are holding the wheel ?

JohnB007 · Aug 28, 2023

Black Tesla got zero nags during his 30mins drive... He did adjust the max speed once in a while, but something has changed in this version. Not sure what it is though.

Supcom · Aug 28, 2023

JohnB007 said:
Black Tesla got zero nags during his 30mins drive... He did adjust the max speed once in a while, but something has changed in this version. Not sure what it is though.

Maybe they iterate a list of VINs now for Elon Mode.

PACEMD · Aug 28, 2023

jebinc said:
Aye?

What a keener, aye?

PR0FESSOR · Aug 28, 2023

I have had some time on 11.4.7 and honestly, it pretty much feels the same on the rural roads that I drive every day. It still barrels towards stop signs only to slam on the brakes when it sees the actual sign (2x every day), it still does some truly scary unprotected left turns (anytime the steering wheel starts turning back and forth, I immediately disable FSD), and it has one new “characteristic” that I hate:

It now takes off like a 90 year old blind woman on sleeping medications.

It is so slow when it accelerates now that I am always finding myself applying the accelerator. I changed FSD driving modes from average to aggressive and then back just to make certain that some software switch did not get mucked up during the install. No difference. I kept it on aggressive… no difference. This new “feature” is annoying as all get out.

I cannot wait to hear from @fasteddie7, who also has HW4 (not sure if he is on 11.4.7 yet) to see if he has the update and whether or not he is seeing this new “feature”.

11.4.7 is thus far, worse than 11.4.4 in my limited opinion. Remember, I drive almost exclusively on rural high speed roads and in very small towns, so 11.4.7 may be a wonderful upgrade in other areas… just not for me.

Joe

WilliamG · Aug 28, 2023

PR0FESSOR said:
I have had some time on 11.4.7 and honestly, it pretty much feels the same on the rural roads that I drive every day. It still barrels towards stop signs only to slam on the brakes when it sees the actual sign (2x every day), it still does some truly scary unprotected left turns (anytime the steering wheel starts turning back and forth, I immediately disable FSD), and it has one new “characteristic” that I hate:

It now takes off like a 90 year old blind woman on sleeping medications.

It is so slow when it accelerates now that I am always finding myself applying the accelerator. I changed FSD driving modes from average to aggressive and then back just to make certain that some software switch did not get mucked up during the install. No difference. I kept it on aggressive… no difference. This new “feature” is annoying as all get out.

I cannot wait to hear from @fasteddie7, who also has HW4 (not sure if he is on 11.4.7 yet) to see if he has the update and whether or not he is seeing this new “feature”.

11.4.7 is thus far, worse than 11.4.4 in my limited opinion. Remember, I drive almost exclusively on rural high speed roads and in very small towns, so 11.4.7 may be a wonderful upgrade in other areas… just not for me.

Joe

Thanks for the feedback. Who could have possibly seen this coming, though, amirite?

Supcom · Aug 28, 2023

PR0FESSOR said:
I have had some time on 11.4.7 and honestly, it pretty much feels the same on the rural roads that I drive every day. It still barrels towards stop signs only to slam on the brakes when it sees the actual sign (2x every day), it still does some truly scary unprotected left turns (anytime the steering wheel starts turning back and forth, I immediately disable FSD), and it has one new “characteristic” that I hate:

It now takes off like a 90 year old blind woman on sleeping medications.

It is so slow when it accelerates now that I am always finding myself applying the accelerator. I changed FSD driving modes from average to aggressive and then back just to make certain that some software switch did not get mucked up during the install. No difference. I kept it on aggressive… no difference. This new “feature” is annoying as all get out.

I cannot wait to hear from @fasteddie7, who also has HW4 (not sure if he is on 11.4.7 yet) to see if he has the update and whether or not he is seeing this new “feature”.

11.4.7 is thus far, worse than 11.4.4 in my limited opinion. Remember, I drive almost exclusively on rural high speed roads and in very small towns, so 11.4.7 may be a wonderful upgrade in other areas… just not for me.

Joe

How does 11.4.7 react to traffic crossing the highway in front of you? 11.3.6 had a bad tendency to apply brakes after the cross traffic had cleared the lane well ahead of my car. 11.4.4 seemed to be more resistant to this.

PACEMD · Aug 28, 2023

PR0FESSOR said:
I have had some time on 11.4.7 and honestly, it pretty much feels the same on the rural roads that I drive every day. It still barrels towards stop signs only to slam on the brakes when it sees the actual sign (2x every day), it still does some truly scary unprotected left turns (anytime the steering wheel starts turning back and forth, I immediately disable FSD), and it has one new “characteristic” that I hate:

It now takes off like a 90 year old blind woman on sleeping medications.

It is so slow when it accelerates now that I am always finding myself applying the accelerator. I changed FSD driving modes from average to aggressive and then back just to make certain that some software switch did not get mucked up during the install. No difference. I kept it on aggressive… no difference. This new “feature” is annoying as all get out.

I cannot wait to hear from @fasteddie7, who also has HW4 (not sure if he is on 11.4.7 yet) to see if he has the update and whether or not he is seeing this new “feature”.

11.4.7 is thus far, worse than 11.4.4 in my limited opinion. Remember, I drive almost exclusively on rural high speed roads and in very small towns, so 11.4.7 may be a wonderful upgrade in other areas… just not for me.

Joe

Well, when Elon said 11.4.7 was mostly AI perhaps he meant AI Pacino, like in Scar Face. “Don’t toot your horn honey, you’re not that good.” “Say hello to my little friend!”

kpanda17 · Aug 28, 2023

What 2023.26.x is 11.4.7 contained inside?
I only see 7.30 having it on teslafi

PR0FESSOR · Aug 28, 2023

I believe it is only on 2023.7.30

kpanda17 said:
What 2023.26.x is 11.4.7 contained inside?
I only see 7.30 having it on teslafi

kpanda17 · Aug 28, 2023

PR0FESSOR said:
I believe it is only on 2023.7.30

Thought we are being merged into 26.x and then probably split again once we are at v12

PR0FESSOR · Aug 28, 2023

It applies the brakes well after the cross traffic has cleared the road, and when I hit the accelerator to stop its stupid behavior, it screams at me because it thinks I am going to hit the other car.

Supcom said:
How does 11.4.7 react to traffic crossing the highway in front of you? 11.3.6 had a bad tendency to apply brakes after the cross traffic had cleared the lane well ahead of my car. 11.4.4 seemed to be more resistant to this.

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